From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Apr 29 6: 6:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A7815178 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24369; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA34340; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.2/8.6.9) id JAA20952; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:05:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199904291305.JAA20952@lakes.dignus.com> To: mbendiks@eunet.no, mladavac@metropolitan.at, nate@mt.sri.com, rivers@dignus.com Subject: RE: Adding desktop support Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jabley@clear.co.nz In-Reply-To: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C11002761795F4@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas David Rivers [SMTP:rivers@dignus.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:58 PM > > To: mbendiks@eunet.no; nate@mt.sri.com > > Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; jabley@clear.co.nz > > Subject: Re: Adding desktop support > > > > > > I point out that if the executable has no icon in it, then this > > "overrides" from the window manager would come into play, right? > > > > Since the "overrides" have to be there anyway - what's the advantage > > of putting the icon in the exe? > > > [ML] Convenience for the users. Just plain and simple. > > The same reason one has clickable icons in filemanagers/desktops > instead of starting an application from an xterm command line. Don't > ever underestimate the driving force of plain convenience (or don't you > ever use icon clicks to start something under X?) > > /Marino As it happens, on UNIX, nope - I quit doing that... for one very good reason. When I start something from an ICON, typically stderr is directed "away". And, typically, UNIX programs (including such mostly-GUI applications as Netscape) write useful information to stderr. So - after struggling for awhile with a particular problem, then trying to run the program from the command line and seeing the nice/helpful message which would have prevented a lot of frustration... I quit starting things by "clicking." - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message