From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 21:06:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FE516A4DD for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from elise.stf.rewt.org.uk (elise.stf.rewt.org.uk [82.152.108.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E143D70 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:06:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Received: from [10.113.249.110] (hnmvngw@[80.187.214.13]) (authenticated bits=0) by elise.stf.rewt.org.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7VL5WJX006383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:06:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe@joeholden.co.uk) Message-ID: <44F74F13.5040609@joeholden.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:05:23 +0100 From: Joe Holden Organization: joe@joeholden.co.uk User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Vogel References: <2a41acea0608311338x68e64e4bme2fae9e285ada11e@mail.gmail.com> <44F74B12.2030108@joeholden.co.uk> <2a41acea0608311403x3943e6afma4de6cadb0ef9558@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0608311403x3943e6afma4de6cadb0ef9558@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 OpenPGP: id=13A6D1E7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC453F45ABD844FBA80C90F0D" Cc: Rob Watt , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel em receive hang and possible pr #72970 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:06:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC453F45ABD844FBA80C90F0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jack Vogel wrote: > On 8/31/06, Joe Holden wrote: >> Jack Vogel wrote: >> > On 8/31/06, Rob Watt wrote: >> > >> >> After poking around in various group/pr postings the most similar=20 >> problem >> >> that we found was PR #72970. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D72970 >> >> >> >> Does it seem that we are encountering that bug? Is that bug fixed i= n >> >> 6.1-RELEASE, or is there an easy patch to 6.0-RELEASE (i.e. can we = >> only >> >> patch the em driver). >> > >> > That fix is only just into the STABLE code, so no, not in 6.1-RELEAS= E. >> > You could take the tip of STABLE, but if you have only a 6.0 based >> > system I know you are going to run into some backward=20 >> incompatabililties. >> > As a matter of fact I dont believe the STABLE tip will even build on= >> > RELEASE (something that I take issue with). >> > >> > Sounds like its at least possible this is your problem, worth=20 >> setting up a >> > system to test with I would say. >> > >> > Good Luck, >> > >> > Jack >> > Intel LAD >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >> IF you want latest -STABLE you use stable, if you want code AS-IS when= >> it was released, you use RELEASE >> >=20 > I agree with that in the case of generic OS, but from the standpoint of= =20 > a driver > developer/maintainer I hope you see why this is a problem, yes? >=20 > In the commercial world they dont want to upgrade a complete OS to get = a > couple line bug fix in a driver, so making the driver backward compatib= le > WHEN POSSIBLE (and I know thats not always doable) is goodness. >=20 > Jack Agreed, unfortunately major ABI changes break backwards compatability,=20 which I agree, shouldn't happen in a STABLE branch. --------------enigC453F45ABD844FBA80C90F0D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE908VdQJXshOm0ecRAn65AJ0R8LAXXd8wEvOVzg7rThDIVL+xhQCdG1mg 6m7OkL5czNReVJ8HKHUaWQY= =PZUZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC453F45ABD844FBA80C90F0D--