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Date:      Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:06:12 +0000
From:      Dr Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
To:        Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc:        Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS on a single disk?
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On 4 Mar 2011, at 14:00, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0000, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote:

>> I don't believe that that's an issue anymore. The XEN kernel comes
>> configured with PAE as a default option, and I've seen elsewhere that
>> there is no technical problems running ZFS in a PAE environment. (The
>> PAE docs are out of date when they say we can't use kernel modules,
>> and any 64 bit aware kernel model should run with PAE with no
>> difficulties).
> 
> XEN isn't something I'm familiar with, which is obviously a huge part of
> the problem with me trying to give you advice on the matter.  :-)  The
> only virtualisation "system" I'm familiar with is VMware Workstation,
> which isn't anything like XEN.
> 
> What I'm going off of is /sys/i386/conf/PAE vs.  /sys/i386/conf/XEN.
> 
> Be sure to notice all the "nodevice" lines in /sys/i386/conf/PAE, and
> the comment directly above those.  The XEN configuration file has
> "options PAE", which is ultimately what a driver/piece of kernel code
> would use for compile-time detection for supporting/working under PAE.
> 
> For example, arcmsr(4) will flat out panic() (intentionally) if PAE
> is used.  bge(4) and twa(4) appear to have a 4GB boundary on DMA; I
> don't know the implications of this.

Luckily I care not about device support. As long as the paravirtualised
devices work, and zfs works, I need nothing else.

So, I guess the zfs question boils down to whether (given everything
else being equal with PAE support) I could consider zfs on i386 with
a PAE memory model to be stable enough for a production server (on 8.2).

Joe




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