From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Aug 7 13:43:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA6D3BB0EE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BNRQy5LbTz4SBR for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B5B8A3BAEF7; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58113BB2C1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.evolve.de", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BNRQx3TNDz4S3y; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9692d3f3; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; s=20180501; bh=IDRyalUGF5ma4V 59H2Q1HAgCmyY=; b=aiDQYUjUUQRoht3bG5Z7s27gnJZ3D837wg0eqODB+Rutw2 zgXIATZAIkvPChvY/xAoTq/QyuXZFtr0yjLcGunmHwMHvvwu7J7QwibQ19eOW+2w eS38MnT/iZkU2Y3S6sVV09Ax+EdrXek0YC8we1tKvYfCO6lqor/T2UnsF1BwBH2d A0wYpOmRQTdv6R9vI/Vu+wSCdkimHawRSelkTLiTEb3Ar7GpzS2W43J6u+lNfU1z m1a7d/skWHeq7McMTNYLddpk3tCj9e0X26l3ptiFhqSxnQEbO2iQMJEg142v8k1i fuTmNmdC+qNBnZ5V5nZLegGgA05JkabMyXGQwT7Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=grem.de; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s=20180501; b=P+yzY2C6 ENjPssLUxgUwointpGyO4pkh7b8mqQvqWWXKYpNApjL2nD5kMayUgf1Ia9jC/e/l KvloXYXV9TKby1VEp7BU0+tMYvrp0xwDG+j+BgMvXkxQzqZBX0Yoog/i/CAqS/OM mwlKjrRrWQhP3xVlZtcKr2q6YPNjs/hvIoJP7yKBScKHGWGGn0XNSr5Y+Fve4hPH mpvPivaWBzkqTA2HHMW/UMltAV0eHQbwM59H1R6i+EGrN5jH4E0HEPN3Dm39gdpK 8FUdJzfZORn49uxuRgxzhNo5gd997SHMajQCZVWYRqPjICMvmQ8RXjAGBExdDJsj mMlcUH1vUfOsRQ== Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id a29d04f5 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256:NO); Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] Planned deprecation of portsnap From: Michael Gmelin In-Reply-To: <67fabbf4-0fc3-49da-8354-2e20486d4751@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:43:38 +0200 Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-Id: <11C38184-E6D4-4F04-9A38-8EFEA10402B0@grem.de> References: <67fabbf4-0fc3-49da-8354-2e20486d4751@FreeBSD.org> To: Steve Wills X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17F80) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BNRQx3TNDz4S3y X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=grem.de header.s=20180501 header.b=aiDQYUjU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@grem.de designates 213.239.217.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@grem.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.42 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[grem.de:s=20180501]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:213.239.217.29/32]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grem.de]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.960]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[grem.de:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.48)[-0.479]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:213.239.192.0/18, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 13:43:55 -0000 > On 7. Aug 2020, at 15:26, Steve Wills wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi, > ..... > I believe that's updated daily and the tars from cgit are generated at lea= st that frequently, if not more. >=20 The real question is: Will we design things in a way that we expect ports tr= ee users to always install git and its dependencies on their system or not (= long term)? For developers it=E2=80=99s a no-brainer (obviously yes), but ports tree use= rs aren=E2=80=99t developers.=20 Ideally, from a user perspective, =E2=80=9Cportsnap fetch/extract/update=E2=80= =9D would just work as it did before (maybe running =E2=80=9Cportsnap reset/= migrate=E2=80=9D once after the change). Cheers, Michael