From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed May 24 13:18:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ABFD7B7C5 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF9D1EC7 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DB717D7B7C4; Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB196D7B7C3 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD3C1EC6; Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C144116051; Wed, 24 May 2017 15:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 15:10:57 +0200 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Kirk McKusick Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The futur of the roff toolchain Message-ID: <20170524131057.U8GG5%steffen@sdaoden.eu> References: <20170521125733.bmd4tmq6iqpsbvgl@ivaldir.net> <201705232013.v4NKDhn3066014@chez.mckusick.com> In-Reply-To: <201705232013.v4NKDhn3066014@chez.mckusick.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steffen Nurpmeso , Kirk McKusick , current@FreeBSD.org, Baptiste Daroussin User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.0-pre4-80-gae58644a OpenPGP: id=232C220BCB5690A37BD22FFDEB66022795F382CE; url=https://www.sdaoden.eu/downloads/steffen.asc BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 13:18:31 -0000 Mr. McKusick, Kirk McKusick wrote: |Thanks for all your work on this project. As I still use roff for |our book and for many of my presentations, it is a topic of interest |to me. That said, I am fine with roff dropping out of base as I can |easily enough bring it in from ports. And I am curious to try using |heirloom doctools on our book to see if it works. We do some pretty |evil things with diversions, so I can easily believe that it will |not work. But it would be great if it does work, because the groff |in base has some bugs that are annoying to work around. i would be interested to hear about all bugs for future references. I will continue to work on the GPLv2 clone of GNU roff -- that i will maintain -- again in the nearer future, and have brought that almost in sync with v1.22.3 years before. (In sync, but having left off some things which touch code, and that is GPLv3. Etc.) I have not seen annoying bugs in my daily, very unscientific though, use of the FreeBSD version of groff for what can be called many years. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)