From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 09:10:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB9DAD5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BD3A24C3; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w61so5289877wes.11 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:10:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=uzDU8jP2A/NvId4NFWFw8U88OgHOvmL+QAJ+jGa7y2A=; b=sYg0UEWKOO3gK3Nh77x2AsrKWqfwQInSS0iXiuaEPvC4dTs4YG3CP4WiYfhLbQiKvF cFjXoSAuH4hBohbHY0p8zZpvI1PgiqsPhxiOKG/mNMRrp6hQkqzDyuybyE6JBsGC0qYP XIdURVxuyNyzOLHZt6+fu4jeuHSAaj+5N/KEf3bbpHneYHdGroSYmH3QCQItiRJ2m997 YA1vQ0NUs0iZCQWYR73Ugm8r8yfhzNxERGwQfybro89e0AND5NeFuydM3xcsWvIMrdxP GKZSetZxf99F2ZoPLF9n+azyCmPNiFzkAlJv2bGlCnrNrg3Mu/GprIY3nzth/PfFbhz3 Xulw== X-Received: by 10.194.92.148 with SMTP id cm20mr30952007wjb.57.1407489039210; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id di7sm15917050wjb.34.2014.08.08.02.10.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:10:36 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Tijl Coosemans Subject: Re: svn commit: r364113 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg Message-ID: <20140808091036.GC17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <53e0f0ad.5847.5faaa40c@svn.freebsd.org> <15D20738-E215-4F78-A9CC-5A635D488498@adamw.org> <20140806053647.GL17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <7D423316-97A3-44B5-A427-4027EF61FACE@adamw.org> <20140807190501.7ac2db0c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20140807171815.GV17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140807210734.221966e4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Hmb9n29fjuiORm2l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140807210734.221966e4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:10:42 -0000 --Hmb9n29fjuiORm2l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:18:15 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:05:01PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:50:49 -0400 Adam Weinberger wrote: > >>> On 6 Aug, 2014, at 1:36, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:= =20 > >>>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:46:13AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >>>>> On 5 Aug, 2014, at 10:56, Baptiste Daroussin wro= te: > >>>>>> - Directories can be listed in the plist like files they will be > >>>>>> considered like @dirrmtry > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> That one is exciting! Do they still need to appear in the same way > >>>>> (i.e. at the end of the plist, in reverse-order)? > >>>>=20 > >>>> pkg never had this limitation :) > >>>=20 > >>> I am constantly amazed at the tremendous progress that pkgng has > >>> achieved. The problem is, a lot of these improvements aren=E2=80=99t = documented > >>> anywhere, so it=E2=80=99s hard to know what new paradigms we have at = our > >>> disposal! > >>>=20 > >>> Although I suppose that until pkg_install is fully deprecated (< 1 > >>> month now, yay!), it=E2=80=99s best that we not go crazy with incompa= tible > >>> plist changes. > >>=20 > >> We should probably have a discussion in September about what to do > >> with the newly acquired freedom. For instance, there are way too many > >> tiny files in the ports tree that slow down subversion operations and > >> take up way too much disk space (smallest file size on default FreeBSD > >> install these days is 4KiB). I think we should move distinfo into the > >> Makefile, combine all pkg-* files into one Pkgfile (using ucl syntax > >> maybe?) and combine patches per feature instead of one patch per file. > >> I'd like to get rid of the files directory too, at least in most cases. > >=20 > > That discussion needs to happen now. >=20 > I was thinking that maybe we could wait until everybody is back from > vacation. >=20 > > I'll collect the idea after my return from vacations :) > >=20 > > What I have in mind and is going to happen: > > - remove of @exec >=20 > If this means there'll be a lot of tiny pkg-install files then I would > oppose this. Just to give some stats (default FreeBSD installation): >=20 > /usr/ports% du -k -d 0 . > 1525248 . > /usr/ports% du -Ak -d 0 . > 670241 . >=20 > This means that only about 44% of the disk space taken up by a subversion > checkout is actual content. >=20 Nope that means a lot of new keywords :) regards, Bapt --Hmb9n29fjuiORm2l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPklAwACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExPTgCeI5r6ndjreivrQff2caH+lbqb 3ZkAnRtHKnNrN7EgMcj5f44N3ZkLXMDl =3wFx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Hmb9n29fjuiORm2l--