Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:55:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Fosburgh <wotan@fosburgh.dyndns.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, W Gerald Hicks <wghicks@bellsouth.net>, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: revisiting Motif policy in ports Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9904230050040.37581-100000@fosburgh.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <199904230532.WAA64192@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Steve Kargl wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, W Gerald Hicks wrote:
> > > How about a new DEPENDS_MOTIF (supplied by a port) which might
> > > build lesstif if HAVE_MOTIF is not set?
> > >
> > > I agree that lesstif has become useful. (former skeptic)
> >
> > I would suggest that, if HAVE_MOTIF is not set, you want to prompt the
> > user that Motif was not detected, and then go ahead and build lesstif
> > automatically. You don't want to look down your noses at Motif (it's
> > not free, but that doesn't mean it has cooties). The prompt ought to
> > say something like:
> >
> > Motif libraries not detected (HAVE_MOTIF not defined).
> > Building lesstif as non-commercial substitute.
> >
> > I think that's pretty even handed. The idea is NOT to discourage Motif
> > sales, while offering an acceptable workaround for those who won't buy
> > Motif. We WANT commercial vendors, so we don't want to go around
> > insulting them.
> >
>
> Yes, exactly my thoughts. Nedit, ddd, and few other ports are very
> useful, and LessTif makes them functional. I brought this up
> for discussion because one needs to be careful to not blow away
> a valid Motif installation where a sys admin may have forgotten to
> set HAVE_MOTIF.
>
> I think we need (in some pseudo-make syntax),
>
> .if !defined(HAVE_MOTIF)
> .if !exists(${PREFIX}/lib/libXm.a)
> build LessTif
> echo 'LessTif is known to contain some difference from Motif'
> echo 'See http://www.lesstif.org'
> .endif
> .endif
>
> --
> Steve
>
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Rather than automatically build lesstif I would have the echo be along the
lines of:
Could not detect Motif (HAVE_MOTIF not defined).
Set the environment variable USE_LESSTIF to build lesstif.
Hence:
make USE_LESSTIF=yes
will force the makefile to look for a dependency like the above. This way
if whoever is installing the port turns away for awhile before this
message comes up (which may take a few seconds depending on load, etc)
won't come back to a Motif installation that has been clobbered. I
imagine more people would rather have to retype the make command than have
to reinstall Motif.
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