From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 15 4:53:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (mail7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A60437B718 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:53:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bts@babbleon.org) Received: from babbleon.org ([66.26.250.181]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:53:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3AB0BB19.504935BE@babbleon.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:52:42 -0500 From: The Babbler Organization: None to speak of X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: Nate Williams , Gerhard Sittig , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bridging with 3C589D-COMBO on 4.2-RELEASE? References: <15023.44543.137285.702518@nomad.yogotech.com> <3AAC4C03.13000DE@babbleon.org> <3AAC4E83.2C281B90@babbleon.org> <20010312174852.T20830@speedy.gsinet> <3AAF06E8.103042C6@babbleon.org> <200103151000.f2FA0H921465@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I find it a bit implausible that the fact that I've had apparent PCMCIA-related crashes at least a half-dozen times in two months with FreeBSD and at most twice over a span of four years with Linux does not in some way reflect a difference between the operating systems, rather than random luck. A 70x incidence rate strongly suggests causality to *me*. Of course, I *am* running the straight-up 4.2 support, not the new PCCARD support. But I'd expect that to *help* with stability for the cards where it works at all. Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <15023.44543.137285.702518@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: > : Note, it's *impossible* due to the design constraints of PCMCIA hardware > : to do this right everytime. > : > : Because it works in Linux doesn't mean it's not doing bad things. It's > : just that you're really lucky. (Seriously). > > This is also true if it just works in FreeBSD too. We can make the > windows of death as small as possible, but you can only make them so > small. > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" bts@babbleon.org Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message