From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 30 17:14: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611CD37B417 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0175.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.175] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16W5nJ-0004bD-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:13:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3C589A3F.10F18882@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:13:35 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Alfred Perlstein , Poul-Henning Kamp , Jordan Hubbard , Dallas De Atley , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: __P macro question References: <20020130221427.522493A9A@overcee.wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wemm wrote: > In case you didn't notice, this rant you posted is in a thread > that mentions that NetBSD *is* agressively removing __P() and OpenBSD > appear to be as well. I want the decision to be intentional, not simply because of "herd instinct". > The bottom line is that the effort to port gcc to an arch that only has a > K&R compiler is far more productive than trying to get our tree to build > on a K&R-only compiler. The cost to doing this is: 1) You risk becoming the compiler maintainer for 2 years, in order to comply with the license. 2) It is another barrier to using BSD code. 3) The GCC compiler is sub-par on many architectures. > Nobody in their right mind is going to run FreeBSD-5.x on a 6809 or > a Z80 or a 68010. The least of their problems is the compiler. I hope your misunderstanding here is intentional. I am not talking about running the full FreeBSD-5.x on a 68010, I am talking about using portions of the code as a reference implementation. For example, taking the TCP/IP stack by itself, with all the DOS attack hardening and other hardenening, and using it in a system other than FreeBSD. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message