From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 21:25:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4BAFD7570; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 366ED74E0E; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w9MLPlVs013783; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w9MLPlH8013782; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201810222125.w9MLPlH8013782@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? In-Reply-To: <201810222121.w9MLLJh4050701@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Julian H. Stacey" Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:25:47 -0700 (PDT) CC: Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current , ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:25:53 -0000 > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > The ctm(1) client remains in the FreeBSD base system, although > > > FreeBSD-hosted ctm infrastructure was shut down some time ago. I > > > suspect it is time to remove it from the base system (perhaps making a > > > port). > > > > > > How much use does ctm have these days? > > > > I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen > > one data point in the last 14 days of a user who was infact > > using ctm though I can not associate a username/email address > > with that memory. > > > > A search of the last 30 days of @freebsd.org public mail > > may yield a hit. > > A fair guess, but it wouldn't indicate CTM usage well, > as we only use the ctm@ list to discuss if something breaks, > or to warn if a server will go out for maintenance. The search was only to find YOU, as I knew my above 14 day reference to a user was a message on a mail list that contained the word "ctm". > more misleading still: the ctm-announce@ list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-announce > hasnt been used in years, because Stephen doesnt have > write access to it. I did write someone years back asking that > Stephen be given write access, but it slipped between the cracks. > If anyone fixes that to give Stephen Montgomery Smith write access to > ctm-announce, it would be nice if you consider giving me write access too to > ctm-announce@ as I occasionaly announce server outages eg > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/ctm-users/2018-September/000526.html That should be possible, though I have no idea of where to even ask. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org