From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 13:33:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33C4BD9454 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7753D1605 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 1so31510449wmz.1 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:33:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=K61Mv76uNl1WrSVz/GOad/g1ToTj7WdY/+RAmY1pOHk=; b=H/bFwnTBDNPYHDaBe+6jYA9ogACjD2SkBkirRT91rBX+20bL/nDVDHLOcRA0KekDBD z5Jq4YTP8RgQs+tQVFwrUJv9SlmBe6QRNXtTBvPxxcvecAqycTyc8sDYuCfQIKVkpB8O Vg37ogqlTWgZEfEZMNsTnB9aErIrdAc7e5YzJMXzU/jEsPAZyMURwkm7uCZBk0uYr6T1 z4sEDZWHbk2vIFrskL8HbU5zprlxFEP3afEyfg8kfq9DCx2U5yRDkz/svRbctQWYTDvu rrvSGcnEH0YAYDm/YpWelATnV9DvmNyqX2Aqa9INOreFWyCENs9dGawJBG9HZHHqRZDo tNSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K61Mv76uNl1WrSVz/GOad/g1ToTj7WdY/+RAmY1pOHk=; b=boWmtxc6CRnNizmcoYjaDIxcJSL4wJOR0XlL+iMlg9nHnOsaD+G6lwf5Grode0cdBL DKySe0jKi5P9odETAJVuQW1OFdShBhwf1pLj8KcEyPPOGN12XzLZ/+WXucCqyHzF6qcN kuv6jSEiHCpU5XjhPZLrhJKr0bjH4/niwWD2gPsgAQSccvMVbmfQ797fT3bavRCVSqhh 54wo3F0beISaoXdhI4KhUOZM8hhs9Mm+K2BAhsB16WiOdsnAdDCSf4M4+N7+jgHnMD43 YMKW9v/fwXRAlkGVWgxzn+B69DcYVmBMQFLeY465ZdYlPshSsqI6sJj1BFpyEr5yvznA PcHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOqkHAJiGAes2QcIrwgmXTJPQE9vFlAl8r2K4JW8AWBofdvSV980CahE6qv+il6wA== X-Received: by 10.28.150.1 with SMTP id y1mr9424275wmd.114.1473860012833; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([81.17.24.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 190sm4243388wmk.13.2016.09.14.06.33.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:33:27 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best kind of hard drive for heavy use? Message-ID: <20160914143327.3b7d3c36@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20160914051806.297c0c3f@archlinux.localdomain> References: <42.56.05022.D3A48D75@dnvrco-oedge02> <20160913213649.3a3f26b2@archlinux.localdomain> <0d1b8dba-3292-9991-ea7d-f160c25090c8@netfence.it> <20160914051806.297c0c3f@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:33:35 -0000 On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 05:18:06 +0200 Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:38:55 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >(Speaking of WD Green, not WD in general) it is true, unless you run > >their utility (DOS only!) which disables this "feature". > >However the drives will tend to fail in a short time all the same. > > That perhaps was true for some older drives, that spin down after a > few seconds, but it anyway required something to wake up the drives > again. Howvere, it's untrue for those drives that are just a few > years old. My spins down after 30 minutes, and stays a sleep , if no > evil software touches it. Drives are typically rated for 300k load-cycles, so at 30 minutes it's a non-issue - running the drive cooler and avoiding wear on the moving parts probably extends its life. > I don't use gvfs, smartd and similar software > that touches the drives and enforce a spin up, directly after the > drives goes asleep. Are you saying that smartd does that when it's only monitoring? And do you mean all drives, or just the one the OS is on?