Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:14:33 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: <scanner@jurai.net> Cc: "rootman" <rootman@xmission.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Justification for using FreeBSD Message-ID: <000101c0f63c$5fd15980$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0106151059310.12858-100000@sasami.jurai.net>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: scanner@jurai.net [mailto:scanner@jurai.net] >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 8:05 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: rootman; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: Justification for using FreeBSD > ><...confrontational advice snipped...> > > Or what could *also* happen is you throw down the gauntlet >like this and >wind up getting sh*t canned. Reread what I said. I didn't advocate doing this unless the tech had linked up with the network administrator. If he had, then both of them could safely do this - rarely is a company going to immediately terminate TWO employees that stand up to the boss, and if the manager tried it the Human Resources manager would have her called on the carpet, this is the stuff that employment lawyers just love when they file wrongful termination lawsuits. When you have one against one, it's a "he said she said" situation and nobody is going to believe the underling. Things change 180 degrees when it's two against one, because most people will tend to fault the single employee that multiple people are complaining about. I also see that I'm being taken a bit too literally here. I should make it clear that successful business political manipulation mandates politeness. You never run into an office and "throw down the gauntlet" in a confrontational manner. Instead, both of you walk in, present your combined plan with your assurances that this is the best plan, and be polite but insistent that you are right no matter what the manager does or says. If they are too boneheaded to see the handwriting on the wall then both of you start climbing the ladder, but politely, politely. If that doesen't work, then you both simply do piss-poor work on this ONE item, and if that doesen't work then you get yourselves transferred away from the problem manager and let her or him hang themselves. >It's happened to me before. You get fed up >with the MS crap, and clueless hosers in posititions of authority above >you who, if breathing wasn't an instinct they would be dead. You storm in >to your bosses office throwing down the gauntlet and in no time your >looking for a new job. Think carefully about things before you take Ted's >advice :) Not that it will get you fired, or that it's bad advice, but I >have done just what he has suggested several times before. It doesn't >always work in your favor. There's no guarentees in anything, except that if you DON'T fight for what you believe is the right way to do things, then it's guarenteed that you WILL NOT get your way. If you DO fight for your beliefs, then you won't win all the time, but you will win enough times to make it worthwhile. I don't think that you really have done what I suggested several times before. While I may not have any respect for a clueless manager, I'd never let them know this by telling them to their face!!! Politics in business works differently than politics In Real Life. You have to keep things on a professional level in business and the second you make it a personal dispute you've lost. By contrast, politics in the media and in public generally work off of personal disputes and not professional disputes, it's almost completely opposite. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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