Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:40:25 +1000 From: Da Rock <freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion Message-ID: <4F5E7B59.4050400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net> References: <BAY171-W64121B6717CA5192AF5C7A88540@phx.gbl> <201203102331.33701.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <4F5BE595.1090905@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <201203110603.09069.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4F5D363F.7000400@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4F5E20EF.2020108@comcast.net>
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On 03/13/12 02:14, Allen wrote: > On 3/11/2012 7:33 PM, Da Rock wrote: >> On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: >>> On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: >>> >>>> No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the >>>> newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the >>>> bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix >>>> (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of >>>> hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security >>>> to boot. > Windows is a poorly made joke. We all know this deep down. Does no one > read Computer History? Microsoft was marketing Xenix before IBM said "We > need an OS that blows for a Computer that has similar power to a > calculator ten years from now" and Microsoft said "We can do that!".... > Well, we can BUY that.... Seattle Computer Products has this OS called > QDOS that is a rip off of CP/M and stands for "Quick Dirty Operating > System" if we buy that for a rip off price and rename it Disk Operating > System, even though it can't handle Disks anyway, we can use this! > >>> IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - >>> Unix, >>> Mac... They never tried to be better... >> Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up >> their work once ported, and then said "we can do a lot better now" and >> Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for >> supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while >> a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, >> file based devices, etc). > Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. And a movie. As for > the OS, I don't care. They got it right with Unix years earlier, why > stop now? You realise, of course, that a lot of things you take for granted on BSD Unix was ported from Plan9? Yes, they got it right the first time. _And_ the second. People were impressed, but it would have taken too much effort to change ingrained ways and habits. > AT&T didn't care about Unix until they were allowed to make money off > it, but the problem there, is that Berkeley got a copy of it, and some > Brilliant Hackers started working on it. > > The CSRG at Berkeley did things that made more possible. Then they came > up with BSD, and, well, we're still using it Today. Many people would > consider 6 months to a year a long time in Computer terms, and 5 years > with the same OS, is considered damn good. So what does this say about BSD? > > We're still using an OS that was born in 1969, changed in the 70s by the > Brilliance of Berkeley, and now still going strong after so long. That's > not only saying something, that's a Historical thing. It is astounding. For around 20 years it hung around before they came up with something new, 40 years on and its still going strong - cars don't even last that long; or some buildings for that matter! >> So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original >> designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. > Oh well. We don't really have to deal with DOS anymore, and FreeDOS has > done things even Microsoft couldn't buy their way through. Then we have > Windows, Linux, Unix, and of course, the other toys from other people. > I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. > > Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, and > turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are into > Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs and, for > me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like them to be > running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd use on those. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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