From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 09:28:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6723416A478 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj@hcl-club.lu) Received: from 0b10111.de (hcl-club.lu [62.75.155.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377E813C4D1 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj@hcl-club.lu) Received: from localhost (4be54-4-82-234-154-189.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.154.189]) by 0b10111.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D5D872C43A; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:04:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:04:25 +0200 From: Jona Joachim To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20070914110425.6b9db11b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200709140850.l8E8oC99020313@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20070912200211.GB23911@graf.pompo.net> <200709140850.l8E8oC99020313@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: &>dujC`JZV!}?Y^1"%N{x!f+rW}; PX\_Cg[!|MA~tn3ebIKM|~p=,,U~YJt,Exd`Spk.1Ln zg, Q]0=:!/LTs-eg.Fz, @giLyD'D=s, L\-AJyZ8tcV`kPifedMA@rhoEikoo~K%@iDLNq2?aHZjIt) GqBY7o#9+8j/uuXDVG3`XFEH_4$T%._*%;|vIaP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-advocacy Subject: Re: What Linux^W distribution would you most like to see supported on a ThinkPad? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:28:50 -0000 On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:50:12 +0200 "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Lenovo is asking this at > > and, yes!, FreeBSD is > > a proposed choice. > > > > ATM, the first choice is "Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only > > drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require > > documented hardware", which is also a very good choice. > > I of course like source too, > but this rather destroys the force of that argument: > On FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE: > man nve > then go use find on /usr/src. it's a BLOB < Linux & MS compat > PS there's source coming in from elsewhere now for > man nfe > in 7-current & patches for stable & 6.2 > > Summary: binary only doesnt seem to have precluded FreeBSD in case of > nve, though again, yes we all prefer source avail. too :-) Yup, the only mainstream operating systems / distributions that match "Anyone that refuses to carry binary-only drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require documented hardware" are Debian GNU/Linux and OpenBSD. Jona -- "I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and tell you that you are free." Eris, Goddess Of Chaos, Discord & Confusion