From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 15:12:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF2D1065692 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: from dsl254-019-221.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (dsl254-019-221.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.19.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B998FC22 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 46725 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2008 15:12:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTP; 15 Aug 2008 15:12:22 -0000 Message-ID: <48A59CD5.60903@zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:12:21 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan References: <87ef649b0808140912m39b05fefl527cce2b8bc8e9ca@mail.gmail.com> <87ef649b0808140918k3ae0664bi944ae459bcb2981a@mail.gmail.com> <48A4E197.4010501@zircon.seattle.wa.us> <48A504EC.9020209@kovesdan.org> In-Reply-To: <48A504EC.9020209@kovesdan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Jim Trigg Subject: Re: Can't install gnome2 - docbook-utils is broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:12:23 -0000 Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > >> Please submit this as a send-pr. I have fought repeatedly with the >> docbook maintainers over fixing things like this to no avail. Maybe >> if more people complain, then they will actually attempt to actually >> fix the multitude of docbook problems. >> >> This issue is one that I cannot easily see in the files. The errors >> in docbook tend to be in places where things get added and deleted >> and the resulting files never match expetations. Something has to >> change, but I do not know what it is. I really do not want to have >> anything to do with maintenance of this steaming pile, but the >> current maintainer does not do a very good job either... > I'm sorry it was my fault as I broke it with a docbook-310 change. > It's been fixed now. Could you please elaborate the other problems you > have with DocBook-related ports? I'd also like to see improvements in > this area and I'm willing to work on it. I cannot give you explicit directions. I try to keep my ports upgraded and up-to-date. Every once in a while something happens and docbook just breaks. I cannot trace it to any specific event, but the whole docbook system is just broken. I have tried to deinstall all docbook ports and reinstall them, but is is very hard to do. This is all because to the seemingly random application of sed to various XML files. Trying to redo or undo the editing just makes everything break. There has to be a better way to adjust these stupid XML files. Anyway, when docbook breaks, I spend hours either in pkgdb or portupgrade trying in vain to get ports which depend on obscure docbook ports to actually build. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no reason for any docbook ports to exist anywhere, as I can simply ignore them and remove them from the dependency lists and everything continues to build. /Joe