From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 12 03:29:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2B6F3F for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7280FB74 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 03:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oigi138 with SMTP id i138so11404592oig.4 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nQYvATMcGMgjtOCqw4sbQmlNmXnvAMjW/rG6Lj9GYE0=; b=foijEYBlPxmFiZf3Tt46JikODbRAsl89EE2/oImSeWLTMCfnj8jLFKN0bp3HYHSLeC WyDagZxvI6/kvwu4cLSU10bhVJAUyUmU0ZSGImWInBVmmat0kRCsG+6BNujuZvM2ZKHL aGVp3KqbAWer03jILB9sYHDvM2SBfqL/RhlTSFY8z7JqgBNWo1Qm2f2s2It6Uc4HQvq1 j0gg/IL3I2i1hAFtzjHlxNpleiU2Qzr1tdwFmDiGurbsNr9WypseKIY9LHmAUepJTGD+ GysRV8HQt3REUWIJX+FkH0JGv5JCDs7MqY6EQ3/L4b6uMsf3kAEhSE2FQPae/m6zUm72 N6tA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmeR3ESGQD+vkqTZ0OIwrsYBSk+GdfrI7haFbu/mw0Xo46QEY3F0dwAJzdUtgdt45fYKORD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.124.42 with SMTP id mf10mr4989656oeb.81.1426130536272; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.60.226 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:22:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [59.167.133.100] In-Reply-To: <85F7C686-B0D3-4A48-9180-C0BA9C7DD651@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: <85F7C686-B0D3-4A48-9180-C0BA9C7DD651@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:22:16 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BBB freebsd-current backtrace. why? From: Jason Birch To: Paul Mather Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 03:29:05 -0000 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Paul Mather wrote: > > Related to what Ian said (re: the LOR list not being actively maintained > any more)... > > Is there value in someone stepping up and maintaining a LOR archive? The disconnect between "Always have this on and report it" and "Nobody seems to know or care" is disheartening. I'm sure there are people who care for which this information is very useful, of course. Would I be setting myself up for a world of pain if I raised my hand to do something like this? On the face of it, it seems simple enough, but I haven't been involved in the community long enough to know if it'd be problematic or valuable. It just seems like we should either 1) Care about WITNESS by default or 2) Not care about WITNESS by default, instead of straddin' it. JB