From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 4 09:33:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09074 for current-outgoing; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09054 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:33:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Mars.mcs.net) Received: from Mars.mcs.net (karl@Mars.mcs.net [192.160.127.85]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA00804; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:32:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Mars.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) id LAA04308; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:32:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971204113244.09166@mcs.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:32:44 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Kevin Day Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , nate@mt.sri.com, jak@cetlink.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.0 -release ? References: <14639.881228417@time.cdrom.com> <199712041631.KAA18408@home.dragondata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199712041631.KAA18408@home.dragondata.com>; from Kevin Day on Thu, Dec 04, 1997 at 10:31:31AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Dec 04, 1997 at 10:31:31AM -0600, Kevin Day wrote: > > > No, but consider someone who hasn't made up their mind yet, and knows > > > little/none about the current OS'es out there. The point I'm trying to make > > > is that it would, in my mind, help things considerably if there was in > > > interim (beta, maybe?) release of 3.0, with the warning that it's not done. > > > > How is that any different than a snapshot? We even offer them on CD. > > > > Jordan > > > > Snapshots are great, but where are they, and their features mentioned > prominantly on the web page? > > It took a lot of digging to figure out that a SMP kernel was available at > all for me. (I finally found it by going to the SMP home page, where it > mentioned that it was merged into -current) > > Perhaps, i know this is a contradiction, but a 'stable snapshot'? Something > that is grantedly unfinished, and may possibly have bugs, but a release at a > point where you feel it's ok for production servers to use if they *need* a > feature that it has. > > Kevin "make release" hasn't work in quite some time. The current bitch is from the kerberos code. You can't make a snapshot without "make release" running to completion. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex support on ALL modems Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost