From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 14 17: 9:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BFD14C99 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17198 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:09:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08520; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 20:09:16 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Judge: "Gates Was Main Culprit" References: <000a01bf2efc$ca2434f0$021d85d1@youwant.to> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 14 Nov 1999 20:09:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: "David Schwartz"'s message of Sun, 14 Nov 1999 16:03:04 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David Schwartz" writes: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > However, one something is in the application level, i.e. programs like > > the browser, the word processor, the mail reader, hell even the mail > > transfer agent, it is no longer part of the OS. > > The line is very blurry. Where is command.com on MSDOS? Where is the > defragmenter in Windows 98? Where is FreeBSD's 'sysctl'? Do you really want > the government making the decision about what's part of an operating system > and what isn't? I don't even think real technical experts can do it. Before the fuss over Microsoft's bundling IE with Windows, I always considered ftp to be part of the operating system. On Windows *and* Unix. And try as I might, I can't see a difference between that and a browser, other than historical accident. Admittedly, you can have a usable system without either one, but that's true of *most* of what ships with FreeBSD, and I always thought a big advantage of FreeBSD was that it came as a "complete" system... Be well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message