From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed May 15 14:25:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA131592B70 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26648D336 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6092E1592B6D; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7B1592B69; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "slim.berklix.org", Issuer "slim.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3C708D32C; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p2E52CF95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.82.207.149]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x4FEPaEB019318 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id x4FEPZX2071746; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x4FEPNqk065975; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201905151425.x4FEPNqk065975@fire.js.berklix.net> To: core@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins. From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/jhs http://stolenvotes.uk User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:25:23 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F3C708D32C X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.88)[0.884,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[berklix.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.38)[0.375,0]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.17)[ip: (0.62), ipnet: 94.185.88.0/22(0.31), asn: 33824(-0.08), country: DE(-0.01)]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[slim.berklix.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.76)[0.759,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[68.90.185.94.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[149.207.82.46.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33824, ipnet:94.185.88.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 14:25:52 -0000 Hi core@, cc hackers@ & stable@ PR headline : "FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins." https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2019-May/date.html Volunteers who contribute actual fixes are very much appreciated; But those styled as 'management' who delay announcements to batch floods damage us. As they've previously refused to stop, it's time to sack them. Just send each announcement out when ready, no delays to batch them. No sys admins can deal with 8 in 3 mins: Especially on multiple systems & releases. Recipients start mitigating, then more flood in, & need review which are most urgent to interrupt to; While also avoiding sudden upgrades to many servers & releases, to minimise disturbing server users, bosses & customers. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent http://stolenvotes.uk Brexit ref. stole votes from 700,000 Brits in EU. Lies bought; Groups fined; 1.9 M young had no vote, 1.3 M old leavers died.