From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 19 9:36:50 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 19 09:36:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CAB37B400 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bastion.localhost (p3E9E174A.dip.t-dialin.net [62.158.23.74]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02254; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:36:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from masterpc (master [192.168.0.1]) by bastion.localhost (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBJHb5G03790; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:37:05 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:36:16 -0800 From: Boris X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal Reply-To: Boris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1567298284.20001219183616@x-itec.de> To: Dennis Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT In-reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001219111044.020739e0@mail.etinc.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20001219111044.020739e0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Dennis, Tuesday, December 19, 2000, 8:43:17 AM, you wrote: D> You've lost all credibility here. Well supported device drivers should not D> require source. I'd prefer a commercial (preferably the manufacters) D> support other than some guy in the ural mountains who fixes things IF he D> can get a card with a problem and IF he can duplicate the problem and IF D> hes a good enough coder to get it done. I really donīt think so. A hardware manufacter can give out the source and provide support, too. We all can benefit of this, because some people will begin to optimize something. If there is a free operating system with sources, the drivers should be free, too. Developing an OS takes more knowledge than developing a driver. As I said, I wonīt have the same lame situation as on windows. If there is something wrong, I will have to look at the sources, too. And itīs not very complex to compile something. And if something like (compile, make, make install) is too complex, I donīt know what to say anymore. However, I wonīt accept binary-only drivers or apps in any form. It is and it will be possible in the feature to develop and distribute progs with sourcecode, especially device drivers. It is a risk, but no ris(c|k) no fun -) TRUST NO ONE. We have a great operating system here. Why should we blame it with binary-only files??? I wonīt. -- Best regards, Boris mailto:koester@x-itec.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message