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Date:      Thu, 10 Mar 2016 23:54:01 +0100
From:      Marten <info@martenvijn.nl>
To:        Willem@Offermans.Rompen.nl
Cc:        freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: nanobsd and mutli vap support
Message-ID:  <A67DA2BC-B380-449C-85F6-F82610CD8F28@martenvijn.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20160310111620.GC29444@vpn.offrom.nl>
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hi ,
>=20
> I had a closer look to and deeper thought about your howto
> (http://makerspaceleiden.nl/wiki/index.php/NetworkSetup_AP).
>=20
> 1) Do I understand correctly that a VAP (virtual access point) is =
nothing more
> than a bridge between a vlan and a wlan in hostap mode?
>=20
no it=E2=80=99s more like a virtual interface stacked on a physical =
interface.
The bridge is used to connect it to the vlan .

=
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dieee80211_vap&sektion=3D9&apro=
pos=3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+10.0-RELEASE =
<https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dieee80211_vap&sektion=3D9&apr=
opos=3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+10.0-RELEASE>


Actuallty some config maybe be needed/wished
to avoid loops by  propagating spanning tree on the vlan interfaces

man ifconfig =3D> check for edge / stp


> 2) Why didn't you assign IP addresses to the bridges? Do you do this =
at a
>   later stage?

I have no reason to, but for any interface you can replace =E2=80=9Cup=E2=80=
=9D for  "ip/mask=E2=80=9D if you wish to.
If it has no ip sshd won=E2=80=99t bind to it. For monitoring I would =
prefer to monitor the ESP/NodeMCU sensors
that would give trough network performance from the wlan-clients =
perspective. (packet loss)

>=20
> 3) =46rom the NetworkSetup_AP:
>=20
> <snip>
> ifconfig_wlan0=3D"channel 6 ssid MakerSpaceLeiden_gasten up"
> ifconfig_wlan1=3D"channel 6 ssid MakerSpaceLeiden_deelnemers up"
> ifconfig_wlan2=3D"channel 48 ssid MakerSpaceLeiden_5G_gasten up"
> ifconfig_wlan3=3D"channel 48 ssid MakerSpaceLeiden_5G_deelnemers up"
> ifconfig_wlan4=3D"channel 6 ssid MakerSpaceLeiden_IoT up"
> </snip>
>=20
> The channels will be the same in all access points. Will this lead to
> instabilities when the access points are in close proximity?

This is just one acces point, in the space I currently run 4 ap=E2=80=99s =
(but i could be a much larger number.. )
where a push the configs from the router to the ap=E2=80=99s. The =
current space has 300 square meter, but i would
not surprise me if that triples in the coming years=E2=80=A6  This is =
config has:
- ip adresses
- ssid
- channels
- ssh-keys
- remote syslog
- ntp
- sysctl

And since it has key, there is a small shell script that mounts /cfg/ =
and copies of a tarbal
with that config, so there is also a backup / restore mechanism.

and later maybe:
- bsnmp  to get en set values
- tx power management (smaller cell and more ap when need)
- auto up and down scaling combined with the sensor net or clients per =
ap=E2=80=A6
- auto cycling password=E2=80=99s for the guest work (bottom on the wall =
and a lcd screen...
- sflow
- mqtt posts for clients per network
- maybe maybe :: radius authentication
- mqtt-snmp bridge to drive PoE-switch related to information for the =
sensor netwerk



cheers Marten



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