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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:40:31 +1100 (EST)
From:      michael butler <imb@scgt.oz.au>
To:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Sup!  It's killing us!  Please help!
Message-ID:  <199511150540.QAA19325@asstdc.scgt.oz.au>
In-Reply-To: <199511150410.EAA03435@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Nov 15, 95 04:10:28 am

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Michael Smith writes:

> Hmm.  If it's possible to restrict sup-serving times and clients then
> I'm happy to set up a small server here.  Connectivity isn't the problem,
> just the potential volume issues that may upset our provider.  (Although
> they're a Netscape mirror, so this is hardly going to touch the surface 8)

Volume isn't (currently) a problem here .. I am my own provider with an
average inbound bandwidth utilisation of <20% and outbound of <%5 (avg. over
a month) :-)

I wrote to Peter Wemm ..

> >> That's really it!  Especially desirable would be any sites in Europe,
> >> Japan or Australia, where sup services are especially thin.
 
> >hmmm peter, I meant to set jhome up for this but never got it going..
> >what's your bandwidth like?
 
> Within Perth, 28.8K.  I can probably organise 128K but not on jhome.
> Unfortunately it'd be practically useless outside of Perth. :-(  The WA
> to "rest of australia" 2Megabit link (run by Telstra Internet Service,
> was AARNet) is running at about 60% packet loss, bringing the
> effecitive throughput down in the order of equvalent to a miserable
> 9600 baud.. :-( (ie: over 1KB/sec is a bonus).
 
> Sigh.

I know how you feel .. I've seen many comments from Perth residents about
this. I run an ISDN feed into the same building as the new Sydney->LA link
if that's of more help. Packet loss from here to freefall is not
unacceptable .. even at this hour of the day ..

asstdc:~ % /sbin/ping -c 20 freefall.freebsd.org
PING freefall.freebsd.org (192.216.222.4): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.216.222.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=294.253 ms
64 bytes from 192.216.222.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=270.990 ms

 :

64 bytes from 192.216.222.4: icmp_seq=17 ttl=241 time=270.527 ms
64 bytes from 192.216.222.4: icmp_seq=18 ttl=241 time=272.189 ms
64 bytes from 192.216.222.4: icmp_seq=19 ttl=241 time=275.917 ms

--- freefall.freebsd.org ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 18 packets received, 10% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 265.901/293.016/433.456 ms

Obviously, if we could convince David Dawes (on physics.su.oz.au) it'd be
better .. they've got 2meg into the same Telstra office.

	michael




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