From owner-cvs-all Sat Oct 26 18:23:47 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE9437B401; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AEA43E4A; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9R1NVnQ057965; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g9R1MFqg057964; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:22:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile chunk.c write_alpha_disk.c write_i386_disk.c write_pc98_disk.c Message-ID: <20021027012215.GB57794@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Poul-Henning Kamp , "M. Warner Losh" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org References: <20021025.100623.66111903.imp@bsdimp.com> <20131.1035563872@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20131.1035563872@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Follow-up-To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 06:37:52PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > 3: Aliasing disk devices is a bad idea. You don't want people > to accidentally mount /dev/da0a and /dev/da0s1a at the same > time so you have to add complexity to your kernel side code > to prevent this. Actually you do. I have used this trick MANY times to fix messed up /etc/fstab's and pre-devfs missing nodes in /dev. The ability to do this double mounting has been a big help. > 5: This entire thing is a bloody bikeshed! Nobody cares about > the fact that we get an Disk IO system which is multi-architecture, > modular, extensible, Giant-free etc etc, instead they focus > on the one little detail they _do_ understand, and make a lot > of noise, just to show how much they are "in the loop"! No, they are concentrating on the part they see and use every day. With the number of changes from FreeBSD 4.x -> 5.0; I could more easily upgrade a machine to NetBSD at this point. That is one of the problems -- you're making yet one more user interface and sysadmin change when there are already 100's. Each one added still adds pain for users and SA's. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message