From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 4 13:38:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A8615D5FF6 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84B68923DA for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sendmail Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 07:38:35 -0600 References: <20190630092535.7913d305.freebsd@edvax.de> <957EE871-6906-4424-8895-826B517AF581@kreme.com> <1214115587.2584521.1562179582687@mail.yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <1214115587.2584521.1562179582687@mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <78E7EC05-C990-4EEA-ABCA-C5614326B87F@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3564) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 84B68923DA X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.86)[-0.860,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.955,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.26)[ip: (-0.92), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.32), asn: 209(-0.03), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.51)[-0.515,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:38:38 -0000 On 3 Jul 2019, at 12:46, Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-questions = wrote: > I disagree. I *hated* sendmail, and most especially trying to parse = the documentation and configurations. Maybe the docs have gotten better, = but the configuration itself is still opaque to the point of making perl = look human-readable and kid-friendly. >=20 > /etc/mail/freebsd.cf >> [terrifying sendmail syntax removed] >=20 > God!!! NO!!!! Not the .cf file's context free grammar!!! *Has visions = of discrete math classes in comp sci* *convulses, falls to the ground, = the sendmail configuration emergency team quickly dresses him in his = 'happy jacket with the long sleeves' and carts him off to the sendmail = hospital. Months of therapy ensues - visions of sub-domaining and = header re-writing rules dance through his tormented mind... * NOO!!!! = Make it STOOOOOPPPPPP!!!!! But it was such fun back in the day (like early 90s)! Aren=E2=80=99t you = nostalgic for it? Kind of? No? Right, me neither. Every day is a day further away from sendmail and = every day further from sendmail is a good day. =F0=9F=98=83