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Date:      Sun, 20 Sep 2015 01:23:19 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r396872 - in head: Keywords Mk/Uses
Message-ID:  <20150919232319.GA88199@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <20150920.082158.1766417747729697298.hrs@allbsd.org>
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 08:21:58AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote:
> Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote
>   in <20150919230718.GK57815@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>:
>=20
> ba> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 07:55:58AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote:
> ba> > Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote
> ba> >   in <20150914055033.GA54344@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>:
> ba> >
> ba> > ba> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:30:22PM +0000, Hiroki Sato wrote:
> ba> > ba> > Author: hrs
> ba> > ba> > Date: Sun Sep 13 23:30:21 2015
> ba> > ba> > New Revision: 396872
> ba> > ba> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/396872
> ba> > ba> >
> ba> > ba> > Log:
> ba> > ba> >   Add "fc", "fcfontsdir", "fontsdir", and "none" arguments to=
 USES=3Dfonts.
> ba> > ba> >   They controls whether fc-cache and/or mkfontdir run in
> ba> > ba> >   post-{,de}install targets.
> ba> > ba> >
> ba> > ba> >   japanese/font-* use manually generates fonts.dir entries to=
 utilize
> ba> > ba> >   special modifiers which are useful for CJK fonts.  Because =
mkfontdir
> ba> > ba> >   does not understand and silently remove them from fonts.dir,
> ba> > ba> >   options like fonts:fc or fonts:none is required.
> ba> > ba> >
> ba> > ba> >   Approved by:	portmgr (bapt)
> ba> > ba>
> ba> > ba> Thank you! can you add a comment at the top of fonts.mk to expl=
ain this issue?
> ba> > ba> That would avoid someone else coming in a few years making the =
same mistake as I
> ba> > ba> did.
> ba> >
> ba> >  Sorry for the delay.  I added some comments about this just now.
> ba> >
> ba> > ba> Do you know how they do fix in linux land? because when working=
 on the fonts, I
> ba> > ba> found nothing special being done on any Linux distro, have I mi=
ssed something?
> ba> >
> ba> >  I do not think most of Linux distros care about CJK fonts in
> ba> >  XLFD---at least for Japanese fonts.  Some distros for Japanese mar=
ket
> ba> >  use a small script to generate fonts.dir.  RedHat was using ttmkfd=
ir
> ba> >  utility (included as x11-fonts/ttmkfdir but removed a while ago), =
but
> ba> >  there is no special handling of fonts.dir in RPM of Japanese fonts
> ba> >  these days.  This may be because most of applications which support
> ba> >  CJK fonts now use Xft/fontconfig only.
> ba> >
> ba> >  ttmkfdir is one of the utilities which can understand extensions
> ba> >  designed for CJK fonts (-x flag).  The difference from normal XFLD
> ba> >  entries is modifiers.  In the following example:
> ba> >
> ba> >  fn=3D1:dfhsg3.ttc -dynalab-dfhsgothicp-light-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0=
-jisx0208.1983-0
> ba> >
> ba> >  "fn" specifies font number in TTC.  And since most of Japanese fon=
ts
> ba> >  do not have italic variant in the font glyphs, "ai" is used to
> ba> >  generate "poor man's italic" glyphs:
> ba> >
> ba> >  fn=3D1:ai=3D0.1:dfhsg3.ttc -dynalab-dfhsgothicp-light-i-normal--0-=
0-0-0-p-0-jisx0208.1983-0
> ba> >
> ba> >  I am still not sure of what is the best way for us to maintain
> ba> >  fonts.dir which mkfontdir cannot understand.  While ttmkfdir suppo=
rts
> ba> >  it, this utility is not upper-compatible with mkfontdir.  One of t=
he
> ba> >  practical ways is that putting a Japanese font to a separate
> ba> >  directory and maintaining fonts.dir by pkg-{,de}install script.
> ba> >
> ba> First thanks for the explanation and the comment that would prevent s=
omeone like
> ba> me doing the same mistake.
> ba>
> ba> Do you know if someone is speaking with xorg people to that they can =
work on the
> ba> issue?
>=20
>  No, I don't.  I think it is relatively easy to make a patch to add
>  ttmkfdir-like feature into mkfontdir, though.
>=20
Maybe that is what we should do then.

Best regards,
Bapt

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