Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:01:17 -0800 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <CAJ-VmomM46xGk3R6a9G_KDxMvF5ETiSQPwv5ARxwBo90t4=x=g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com>
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.. I'm replying to the OP because honestly, this thread has gotten a bit derailed. If you'd like to see: ... more frequent releases? then please step up and help with all the infrastructure needed to roll out test releases, including building _all_ the ports. A lot of people keep forgetting that a "release" is "build all the ports for all the supported platforms". ... longer lifecycle? Then please step up and contribute patches for features for your favourite branch. As a developer doing this in my spare time I'm only really working on new features on -HEAD and maybe backporting fixes to 9.x. What _I_ would like is someone to take on the task of testing and backporting net80211/ath fixes to 8.x and 7.x. ... longer branch lifecycle? Same as above. None of the developers are going to reject bugfixes and backported drivers to a legacy, stable branch. We may be a bit against the idea of porting entire new subsystems to legacy, stable branches - but if there's a good enough reason _and_ it's been tested _and_ there's a need for it - _I_ wouldn't say no. If you care this much to comment on it, please consider caring enough to step up and assist. Or, pay a company like ixSystems for FreeBSD support and get them to do this for you. Otherwise you're just re-iterating the same stuff I'm sure all the developers know but are just out of manpower/time/money/resources to do anything about. Adrian (who _did_ step up and take over a subsystem, so I'm speaking from recent experience.)
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