From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu May 24 17:41:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED60EF9A14 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a098::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F05B97A799 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 17:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [192.168.1.208] (cpe-75-82-194-8.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.194.8]) by vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 601e79d8 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Thu, 24 May 2018 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Pause pkg install messages To: Johannes Lundberg , FreeBSD Cc: rde@tavi.co.uk, 000.fbsd@quip.cz References: <20180524091741.59dbabf2@raksha.tavi.co.uk> <999c38f3-8127-6ffa-fad1-818566c2801a@quip.cz> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 10:41:54 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 17:41:57 -0000 On 05/24/2018 02:46, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > >> If you need to re-show message of any installed package, "pkg info -D" >> (or pkg info --pkg-message) is your friend. Nothing is lost. You can >> view it anytime. >> > If you're in virtualbox on a laptop, you seldom have scroll lock unless you > map it manually (which is not easy to know how to do). > And, yes you can review the messages later but how do you know which of the > 100's of package had important messages for you? > > Often when I install 100's of package I walk away from the computer and > when I come back all the messages except the very last one or two have > scrolled by. > I think we should have a pager that says something like "please carefully > read through these messages", halt the output and let's you scroll one page > or pkg at the time. > > Even better, a Y/N question asking the user if they want configuration to > be done for them where it makes sense (but that's a bigger project). > I think having pkg output something along the lines of "missed important messages or want to view them again, run pkg info -D at any time.  here's the list of pkgs we just installed:" would be a good improvement. it would encourage people to get more comfortable with the pkg tool itself while not changing the default behaviour that experienced admins/users have gotten used to. -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA