From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 03:49:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED406106568B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7782D8FC21 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com ([124.188.162.219]) by nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20081008034911.EDWK19244.nskntmtas05p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:49:11 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([124.188.162.219]) by nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20081008034905.LUNI12257.nskntotgx03p.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:49:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 38917 invoked by uid 501); 8 Oct 2008 03:48:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:48:36 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: Kip Macy Message-ID: <20081008034836.GA32263@duncan.reilly.home> References: <48E7BD60.80001@nynorsk.no> <83D0ECC4-B5F1-49E5-B437-52B3753F68F4@hiwaay.net> <3c1674c90810050210n5be68940me0b7214001f6fd1d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90810050210n5be68940me0b7214001f6fd1d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-RPD-ScanID: Class unknown; VirusThreatLevel unknown, RefID str=0001.0A150204.48EC2DB1.0040:SCFSTAT2704298,ss=1,fgs=0 Cc: Eirik =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wix=F8e?= Svela , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD a suitable choice for a MacBook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:49:14 -0000 On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 02:10:59AM -0700, Kip Macy wrote: > > You sound as if you just got the machine and haven't given MacOS X a chance. > > Give MacOS X a chance. Download (if its not on your MacOS X install DVD) X > > Code, and Apple X11. > > X11 is barely usable under Leopard. I've heard a few people complain about X11 on Mac, and I wonder what it is that they're doing that I'm not. Since my "other" systems are all FreeBSD, I use quite a few X11 applications on my two MacOS laptops (Tiger on PPC, Leopard on intel) The *only* problem I've ever had with X11 was on Tiger, where every so often the X11 server couldn't be contacted after coming out of sleep. Restarting X11 fixes that with no particular grief. Under Leopard it's rock solid reliable for my use. > Apps crash regularly and > full-screen doesn't work. Apps in general, or X11 ones? The only X11 full-screen app that I can think of is openoffice's presentation thing. I remember that working OK, but so did the Java GUI on NeoOffice, and now I'm using the experimental Aqua version, which also works properly, as far as I can tell. > He may simply want to be able to boot in to FreeBSD as well. Sure. I've thought about it myself on numerous occasions, but ultimately I can't think of anything that I could do within FreeBSD that I can't already do under MacOS. If I really, really want a FreeBSD environment, I've got VMWare (which is currently doing some Debian Linux, which IMO is much more annoying than either FreeBSD or MacOs, but that's probbly just my inexperience talking.) Cheers, Andrew