From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 27 17:26:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4CA4557D3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier.freebsd@free.fr) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CLJXQ25yJz3dyr for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier.freebsd@free.fr) Received: from ravel.localnet (unknown [2.15.196.14]) (Authenticated sender: olivier.freebsd@free.fr) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB0EFB005D8 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:26:24 +0100 (CET) From: Olivier Certner To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switch the default locale to C.UTF-8 before FreeBSD 13 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:26:23 +0100 Message-ID: <3190392.KMTXMz9Kuk@ravel> In-Reply-To: <20201027154720.mjmn5cofvkqoyd5w@ivaldir.net> References: <20201027154720.mjmn5cofvkqoyd5w@ivaldir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CLJXQ25yJz3dyr X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of olivier.freebsd@free.fr has no SPF policy when checking 212.27.42.1) smtp.mailfrom=olivier.freebsd@free.fr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[212.27.42.1:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[free.fr]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.15.196.14:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[free.fr]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12322, ipnet:212.27.32.0/19, country:FR]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.03)[1.027]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[free.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.995]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.27.42.1:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:26:31 -0000 Hi, Yes, please. As an example, defaulting to C locale causes problems with certain apps when accessing file names containing non-ASCII characters. Sure, old-timers may have customized their systems, and even their installation images, but this is impractical for temporary VMs, or newcomers. Never had a problem while using build/install scripts in base or building ports with a current locale of fr_FR.UTF-8, except a minor one, unrelated to UTF-8, when building the doc (see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ show_bug.cgi?id=246936)). Regards. -- Olivier Certner