From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 08:45:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BA31065673; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700B8FC12; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AEAE81CA; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:05 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=from:to :subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=mail; bh=v 0g3w/9olMaseMM1nZzRpksB8TY=; b=uv8O9+XeMoVn/JysRNm80CUvRiQ3FjVx6 GDeAMSt8yTmGsS7hFXxRU/o7FsfcdJAGawEO2S3qUlJmg5ltHhlC9KdlKH79w8NT x6Hg/WCYvOrKEJdueyqGNxWXRpg2innQ95s0lwpukk+1UOCy10FST/eDYeeBz7F5 bHPSVvHc94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=from:to :subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; q=dns; s= mail; b=QZZjT2IfBLoQC3F2+/oJp7MqPKGCa2AlLv6MlUk9NszcoWZ9t9viRcWJ kubgwJY0h6u+WCqT/AzrA9ns4/YXi/q9gtAedzWq1P8v0lKv+ehYM/EpQFCLudb1 Hrd09uDxoX5UaB+7X1olZYwVy/ZeZ7O/NLHG3BR+ihbkgoTxhyw= Received: from core.nessbank (client-86-31-177-138.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.177.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04AD4E8189; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:44:42 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <4D35CFFB.3010302@freebsd.org> <4D5E945F.60106@freebsd.org> <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <61079648-D76C-4699-AC4D-F6EBE64ABFFC@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201102190844.43267.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer Roadmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:45:11 -0000 On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:04:39 Devin Teske wrote: > There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it > remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind > our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the > replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be > able to exactly replicate the hardware compatibility that sysinstall > currently enjoys. I do indeed envision a great celebration as FreeBSD-9 > bucks sysinstall but also at the same time have nightmares of receiving > waves of calls from people having trouble (for example) "installing > FreeBSD-9 on their AMD K6 based system, circa long-long-ago in a universe > far-far-away." (yes, we do have data centers running that very equipment > with uptime in the 1,000's of days). I think bsdinstall as it currently is is simple enough that there shouldn't be any compatibility issues: it uses gpart for partitioning, runs tools like tzsetup to configure settings etc. so there's far less to go wrong than sysinstall's custom code which for example could crash on the "probing devices" screen. -- Bruce Cran