From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Dec 12 9:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.anet-chi.com (zeus.anet-chi.com [207.7.4.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA1037B405 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from IPv16 (as1b-243.chi.il.dial.anet.com [198.92.157.243]) by zeus.anet-chi.com (8.9.3/spamfix) with SMTP id LAA22804; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:28:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <04fd01c18334$116d5340$1000a8c0@Unir.com> From: "Jim Fleming" To: "Michael Lucas" Cc: "Andre Oppermann" , References: <041b01c1832d$9e1dbac0$1000a8c0@Unir.com> <3C178964.9115B289@pipeline.ch> <043b01c1832e$9d364b80$1000a8c0@Unir.com> <3C178F72.1ECBE9D@pipeline.ch> <049601c18332$513de9a0$1000a8c0@Unir.com> <20011212122609.A45600@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: RIFRAF Routing Changes for FreeBSD Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:40:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps Theodore Geisel, Dr. Seuss' inventor, had the best advice, albeit not from The C@t in the Hat: "You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose." - Dr. Seuss Jim Fleming http://www.ddj.com/articles/search/search.cgi?q=fleming Oct93: The C+@ Programming Language ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lucas" To: "Jim Fleming" Cc: "Andre Oppermann" ; Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: Re: RIFRAF Routing Changes for FreeBSD > Jim, > > If you're looking for opinions, you'll be much better served over in > freebsd-chat. > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 11:27:46AM -0600, Jim Fleming wrote: > > It all boils down to fairness. > > Which list do you think is more fair ? > > > > The "toy" IPv4 Internet Early Experimentation Allocations ? > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > > or > > The Proof-of-Concept IPv8 Allocations ? > > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt > > > > Why would people pay for Address Space, when it is FREE ? > > > > Jim Fleming > > http://www.DOT-BIZ.com > > http://www.in-addr.info > > 3:219 INFO > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andre Oppermann" > > To: "Jim Fleming" > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:10 AM > > Subject: Re: RIFRAF Routing Changes for FreeBSD > > > > > > > > > > 1. Learn how to articulate yourself > > > > > > 2. Read and understand the FreeBSD-arch list charter > > > > > > 3. Learn to state properly why you come here, what you'd like FreeBSD > > > to and why it should do so > > > > > > 4. Learn how to insert line breaks after 72 chars > > > > > > -- > > > Andre > > > > > > AO6-RIPE > > > > > > > > > Jim Fleming wrote: > > > > > > > > RIFRAF Routing > > > > RIFRAF (Remote Identification Field Random Action Filter) Routing is part of a phased approach to evolving from 32-bit IPv4 > > Internet > > > > Addressing to larger address spaces. The RIFRAF feature in an IP stack, allows for remote access control of the left-most > > 8-bits of > > > > the normally 16-bit IPv4 Identification Field. The feature is part of the IPv8 PeaceKeeper/GateKeeper series. The feature allows > > a > > > > PeaceKeeper for a /16 prefix to remotely set StarGate values in a marking engine via simple ICMP+ extensions via the TOS field. > > The > > > > 4-bit StarGate values are rotated through an 8-bit field which is used in a 50/50 coin-toss marking process as packets are > > processed > > > > with the /16 prefix. Source and Destination StarGate marking is distinct, and all 65,536 /16 prefixes have two choices for the > > > > source addresses and two choices for destination addresses. The random marking can be prevented by loading both StarGate values > > to > > > > be the same. The GateKeeper can be restored to legacy Identification Field marking by the PeaceKeeper. Packets marked via RIFRAF > > can > > > > be further routed or queued based on the marks which effectively add 4 bits to the 32-bit IPv4 legacy addresses. All of the > > packets > > > > pass transparently through legacy IPv4 equipment with no change. For legacy equipment not prepared to handle the markings, it > > > > appears as the left 8-bits of the Identification Field. For each of the 256 marking values, an independent counter is maintained > > for > > > > the right-most 8-bits of the Identification Field. There is no API required or other user-level tools. Most modern "ping" > > programs > > > > can be used to set the bits. RIFRAF can exist silently inside of the stack and be totally controlled remotely via existing > > > > connection(s) to the IPv4 private Intranets or the IPv4 Global Public Internet. Spoofing of the PeaceKeeper is possible and the > > real > > > > PeaceKeeper will receive the return reply, at which point the PeaceKeeper can restore the desired values. When RIFRAF is used in > > > > conjunction with other routing devices and on an IPv16 network, these problems can be minimized. RIFRAF is mostly intended for > > use > > > > in extending the addressing of leaf-nodes, which generally are protected behind fire-walls and NAT devices, but can also be used > > on > > > > the IPv4 Global Public Internet to increase the addressing used by edge devices on /16 networks. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Andre Oppermann" > > > > To: "Jim Fleming" > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:44 AM > > > > Subject: Re: RIFRAF Routing Changes for FreeBSD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Fleming wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This may help... > > > > > > http://www.dot-biz.com/IPv4/Tutorial/ > > > > > > http://www.RepliGate.net > > > > > > > > > > > > The Netfilter Project: Packet Mangling for Linux 2.4 > > > > > > http://netfilter.samba.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim Fleming > > > > > > http://www.IPv8.info > > > > > > IPv16....One Better !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Charlie Root" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message > > -- > Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org > My FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message