From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 02:35:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FF816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:35:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE40143D31 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:35:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch01.acuson.com ([157.226.230.208]:4524) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1D0UQc-000581-4o for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:49:30 -0800 Received: by mvaexch01.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <17HX3ZR5>; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:02:18 -0800 Message-ID: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AD4@mvaexch01.acuson.com> From: Johnson David To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:38:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: SPAM: Score 4.5: Re: The FreeBSD Project is announcing a publ ic competition for the new logo design. ???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:35:08 -0000 > From: Mark Ovens [mailto:marko@freebsd.org] > Ricardo Alves dos Reis wrote: > > Unfortunately, the cute FreeBSD daemon is sometimes treated with > > misunderstanding in the religious and cultural context. That's why The > > FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition for the new logo > > design. You can find the rules of the competition in this document. > > > > http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt ?????? > > > > So, the FreeBSD Project is giving in to the narrow-minded, > puritanical, moral minority who, despite their preachings are not very > well-informed as they don't know the difference between 'demon' and > 'daemon'. Is this a sign (or a victim perhaps?) of the "growing > conservatism sweeping Bush's America"? As a Christian and somewhat quasi-conservative, I must protest the promulgation of this falsehood. Problem is not the "religious right", but rather the erroneous perception of the religious right. There is no problem with the daemon mascot. Nobody is out there refusing to consider BSD because of its mascot The only time I have seen this issue brought up has been on Slashdot, by a Linux advocate, or by someone who heard second hand from one of the former. Nobody's complaining about the Arizona Sun Devils. No one's complaining aobut Underwood Deviled Ham. And no one's complaining about the BSD daemon. I'm a Christian and I don't have a problem with him. My Christian relatives and friends don't have a problem with him. Including those that are rural "hicks" from red states. Yes, I'm sure you can scrounge up a couple of old anecotes of people who were offended or disturbed by Beastie. But I can counter each with ten of my own anecdotes of conservative Christians who did not. Do not mistake a few poorly socialized radicals on the right as the model for religious conservatives. That's stereotyping of the worst sort. There *IS* a reason for a logo contest, and that is because we do not have a logo, only a mascot. Let's get ourselves a logo, but keep the mascot, because Beastie is a hell [sic] of a lot cooler than flightless waterfowl. David Johnson