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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:04:31 -0700
From:      J & C Frazier <admin@csocs.com>
To:        alex huppenthal <alex@aspenworks.com>
Cc:        Edwin Culp <eculp@EnContacto.Net>, isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI
Message-ID:  <3A67767F.9B3DA961@csocs.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101171719490.22366-100000@workhorse.iMach.com> <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> <006e01c081a1$b0fe7dc0$1700a8c0@d7k>

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correct, listing of records is inhibited.  I used miceandmen and the records
appear to be just fine.

alex huppenthal wrote:

> I see the same thing here. Dlint doesn't see any A records, but a ping of
> csocs.com works fine here.
>
> Apparently the listing of A records at the nameserver is inhibited.
>
>  -Alex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J & C Frazier" <admin@csocs.com>
> To: "Edwin Culp" <eculp@EnContacto.Net>
> Cc: "alex huppenthal" <alex@aspenworks.com>; <isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI
>
> > Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours.  csocs.com resolves just
> fine.
> > There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node
> > inbetween me and NSI.
> >
> > Edwin Culp wrote:
> >
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > > Thanks.  I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in
> my
> > > maillog quite by accident.
> > >
> > > I have several hundred of these.
> > >
> > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075:
> ruleset=check_mail,
> > > arg1=<admin@csocs.com>, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may
> be
> > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 <admin@csocs.com>... Domain of sender address
> > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve
> > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075:
> > > from=<admin@csocs.com>, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP,
> daemon=MTA,
> > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged)
> > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076:
> ruleset=check_mail,
> > > arg1=<admin@csocs.com>, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may
> be
> > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 <admin@csocs.com>... Domain of sender address
> > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve
> > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076:
> > > from=<admin@csocs.com>, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP,
> daemon=MTA,
> > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged)
> > > Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115:
> ruleset=check_mail,
> > > arg1=<admin@csocs.com>, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231],
> reject=451
> > > 4.1.8 <admin@csocs.com>... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does
> not
> > > resolve
> > >
> > > IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there.
> Hopefully/probably this
> > > will get him up a going.
> > >
> > > provecho y saludos,
> > >
> > > ed
> > >
> > > Quoting alex huppenthal <alex@aspenworks.com>:
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > >  Thanks for your comments.  I agree, it's strange. However, J & C
> Frazier
> > > > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's
> configured
> > > > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem.
> no A
> > > > records means Bind is broken there. *s
> > > >
> > > >  Hope it helps.  It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help
> out
> > > > like this.
> > > >
> > > >  -Alex
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Edwin Culp" <eculp@EnContacto.Net>
> > > > To: "alex huppenthal" <alex@aspenworks.com>
> > > > Cc: "J & C Frazier" <admin@csocs.com>; "Forrest W. Christian"
> > > > <forrestc@imach.com>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Alex,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased.  I can think of
> many
> > > > times when
> > > > > it would have really come in handy.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got
> my
> > > > attention.
> > > > >
> > > > >  ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com.
> > > > > ERROR: no A records found.
> > > > >
> > > > > That might be a good place to start.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative
> > > > >
> > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com,
> SOA
> > > > query got
> > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0
> > > > > and
> > > > >  named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com,
> SOA
> > > > query got
> > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3
> > > > > and
> > > > >  named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com,
> SOA
> > > > query
> > > > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0
> > > > >
> > > > > not good
> > > > >
> > > > > ed
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal <alex@aspenworks.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it
> for
> > > > > > web-based use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  -Alex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "J & C Frazier" <admin@csocs.com>
> > > > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>; "Edwin Culp"
> > > > > > <eculp@EnContacto.Net>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving
> non-authoritive
> > > > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling.  What
> > > > > > > a mess.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com).  Also note the following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > # nslookup
> > > > > > > > Default Server:  localhost.csocs.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  127.0.0.1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com
> > > > > > > > Server:  localhost.csocs.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  127.0.0.1
> > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer:
> > > > > > > > Name:    networksolutions.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  216.168.224.69
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Server:  localhost.csocs.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  127.0.0.1
> > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer:
> > > > > > > > Name:    ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  216.168.224.200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Default Server:  ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  216.168.224.200
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > csocs.com
> > > > > > > > Server:  ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  216.168.224.200
> > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com
> > > > > > > > Server:  ns1.netsol.com
> > > > > > > > Address:  216.168.224.200
> > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I
> guess.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them,
> there is
> > > > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between
> point
> > > > a
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > b.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the
> IP
> > > > > > address
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like
> > > > routing-wise
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something).
> > > > > > > >
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