From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sat Mar 4 21:04:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4858CF9E3D; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB77F1447; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 21:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id v24L4XPU078874; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id v24L4X4x078873; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:04:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201703042104.v24L4X4x078873@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r314654 - in head/cddl: lib/drti lib/libavl lib/libctf lib/libdtrace lib/libnvpair lib/libumem lib/libuutil lib/libzfs lib/libzfs_core lib/libzpool sbin/zfs sbin/zpool usr.bin/ctfconver... In-Reply-To: <2A8909D8-B076-436D-88FE-08050B304FEA@gmail.com> To: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:04:33 -0800 (PST) CC: rgrimes@FreeBSD.org, Bryan Drewery , Ngie Cooper , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: rgrimes@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 21:04:35 -0000 > > > On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:46, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote: > > > > > >> On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:42, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote: > > > > ... > >> I care about this for the reasons brewery posted, but I also care because it slows down my terminal output and it bloats my disk with typescript logs that contain unnecessary information. > > > > And it?s not just my personal laptop. It bloats log files in CI services, slows down grep?ing logfiles, increases data retention requirements, etc. > > > > We (at $work) do thousands of builds a week. Saving a few MB here and there can go a long way over the course of weeks, months, etc. > > Sidenote: it really peeves me how viewing a log in Jenkins will crash my browser when it tries to render the text. Maybe now it will work a bit better. That is a very bad reason, if this disk space saving and not having to see all the ../.. scroll by on your terminal as make buildworld runs is your motivation for this I would say we need to stop now and have a more reasonable and serious discussion about why this is actually a good idea. Please go fix the bug in your browser and hold off on these changes (in either direction) until a proper discussion, possibly real tests to see if there is any savings in cycles worthy of this sized change. > -Ngie -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org