Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Belits <abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us> To: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode on FreeBSD Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0004051532380.11214-100000@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us> In-Reply-To: <8cga09$2rja$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de>
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On 5 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> > > the most inclusive one in existence.
> >
> > It is. However if you look at the current efforts of its "adoption", it
> > is not used as one. It's touted as the solution to all language-related
> > problems, as a replacement of language/charset labeling infrastructure
>
> Who says so? Certainly not the Unicode enthusiasts I have met.
> You are arguing against a strawman.
I would be happy if it was a nonexistent point of view, however it
happens to be exactly what I hear from people who are trying
to "standardize on UTF-8" FTP, HTML, NNTP and even DNS. Their
arguments? "who needs any other charsets or languages? just force everyone
to replace them with UTF-8, put UTF-8 handling into all software and all
languages-related problems will be solved". One of shining examples of
this is someone Martin Duerst, however he is not alone there.
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>
> A claim that would be obviously absurd.
> However, I do consider Unicode a sensible part of any new
> implementation. ISO 2022 (and what other dinosaurs that may be
> lurking in murky shadows) is a legacy solution that should die off.
iso 2022 is a dinosaur -- it's inflexible. However labeling of charsets
and languages in general is definitely necessary for any decent
languages-handling functionality. Even if the charset is Unicode,
languages still have to be labeled somewhere to make any use of the text
in processing, and if labeling is unavoidable, multiple-charsets model is
in no way inferior to Unicode, plus it allows easy addition of charsets
and variants of them without Unicode consortium approval as long as
something handles the charset and language names.
--
Alex
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