From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 22:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2F116A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54DA43FA3 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234F3487AC; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jester@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p2/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id h7V5bVg12373; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:37:31 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20030831053731.GA12021@panix.com> References: <20030831051348.GA10168@panix.com> <20030831052441.GF7020@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030831052441.GF7020@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: xterm setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:37:33 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:24:41AM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 31), Jesse Sheidlower said: > > I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things > > that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm > > windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and > > annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white > > background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) > > there's no menubar with basic "File"/"Edit" etc. options. > > > > I can somewhat get around (1) by launching it with "xterm -r", > > although while this does display white/colored on black, it also > > makes other menus (e.g. those launched with ctrl-[mouse buttons]) > > look incomplete. But (2) is the worst; I really need to have > > scrollbars with this. I see that there's a toggleable option to > > "Enable Scrollbar" that I get to with ctrl-Mouse2, but this isn't a > > regular scrollbar that I can click up and down on, with a moveable > > thumb, etc., as I used to have before the upgrade and as the > > gnome-terminal has now. > > You must not have been using xterm before, then, since I don't believe > you can have any scrollbar other than the standard X-style (RMB scrolls > up, LMB scrolls down) bar, and it does not come with a menubar either. Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. And I'm rather sure that I have the exact same setup on my Linux box, which is in the office and thus unavailable for me to look at right now. It's also the case that the font displaying with xterm now looks totally familiar, and the one displaying with gnome-terminal is totally unfamiliar and ugly. Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower