From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri May 18 20:13:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AC0EDA186; Fri, 18 May 2018 20:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x229.google.com (mail-wr0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF56387833; Fri, 18 May 2018 20:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x229.google.com with SMTP id 94-v6so10346797wrf.5; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:13:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bJsz0ic8u7sg9NN6PK0OnTs99kF596cDXdqbXyfH/Q4=; b=bli82vnQYJfihJpRw6Qt9BTG+UQp/jcomrXio4EJ5NScvjfjTk93xYJXIonWGP4eih /GL+YTdqQGNO0iI3+OHdKhzA/MC0qRfstPvOx/EYnjALzh44CygsRDnbczYD/T3CIo13 Mz+KbvlZGqlOpZqhVsDR8+Gxu4KvkC3Xx/ntmRr4LUyDgYHus4GmgiwRG2l8P96n7e1h WHK9NQjm30JTB6ArFVVTPtCJPAngm65aC824aoZ02r1aF62Gtg7f5W83AdEMW7TXwhBf u8VZeTh7rgf87uwDL/B/JjfqK4mJ3JYwgH2eYwP3eb0+gCmxstAYKOTIaL/vZ/uuEcqE 7qLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bJsz0ic8u7sg9NN6PK0OnTs99kF596cDXdqbXyfH/Q4=; b=PeQiZnxtJ/kvf25TPjmgzxZXM6ifmUAedHZRhjBxXlXUeFIJ1v7yyjUyxNWMrbH/Q+ e9NfOkwJSeyGmQdoPAWhVQCPirNRvn/DhBYAvrHe2GePAVEIRg9YqeUV7hYMkins+9nu hu7P5LiEH/ekKOcI/tRsfac1AJb2KW3fQ7mUk717io9U7kiMBUNc2j+Fr2+7DHgHFxce anB+GI8egKhdydPJ+Nc4DY6EvgrWaqfzxZIgks87u4MEVoHhWAjlN4Hu7DAbuvXtUyOV X9YnGrZZJYqSQNbBjUOKtQKNrwPO0zZs7XcHjycJMr8lcGj3cU78semZUev7yjXCtaiL zE1g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdME0re8lVlEhgB3tgle8I3Sz5sVUaOHw8UlXPumgZBUGd/j/MQ 1BZ1uiNg9GruGaGyOMBmcf9Z9Vgp9yv9TzcpUbo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqsQPJjiP3nP+lf7DhNyEZ9VfRrU8+P8jezuQfHlwbE1H2rwnjv1bHrhLa83Yeq5qIxWnvjM1iW8jgJdfk2p5w= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f74c:: with SMTP id z12-v6mr3625283wrp.165.1526674387054; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.146.194 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2018 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <20180518193009.GA88432@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Johannes Lundberg Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 21:12:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: Warner Losh Cc: Steve Kargl , Andreas Nilsson , FreeBSD X11 mailing list , Current FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:13:09 -0000 On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 9:03 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Steve Kargl < > sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:14:24PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > > > On Fri, May 18, 2018, 20:00 Niclas Zeising > wrote: > > > > > > > I propose that we remove the old drm2 driver (sys/dev/drm2) from > > > > FreeBSD. I suggest the driver is marked as deprecated in 11.x and > > > > removed from 12.0, as was done for other drivers recently. Some > > > > background and rationale: > > > > > > > > The drm2 driver was the original port of a KMS driver to FreeBSD. = It > > > > was done by Konstantin Belousov to support Intel graphics cards, an= d > > > > later extended by Jean-S=C3=A9bastien P=C3=A9dron as well as Konsta= ntin to > match > > > > what's in Linux 3.8. This included unstable support from Haswell, > but > > > > nothing newer than that. > > > > > > > > For quite some time now we have had the graphics/drm-stable-kmod an= d > > > > graphics/drm-next-kmods which provides support for modern AMD and > Intel > > > > graphics cards. These ports, together with the linuxkpi, or lkpi, > has > > > > made it significantly easier to port and update our graphics driver= s. > > > > Further, these new drivers cover the same drivers as the old drm2 > > driver. > > > > > > > > What does the community think? Is there anyone still using the drm= 2 > > > > driver on 12-CURRENT? If so, what is preventing you from switching > to > > > > the port? > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Regards > > > > -- > > > > Niclas Zeising > > > > FreeBSD x11/graphics team > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@ > > freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good ( deprecate resp remove ). It causes more confusion and > > > problems and it solves nothing. > > > > > > > Check the Makefiles > > > > % more /usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod/Makefile > > > > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=3D amd64 > > ONLY_FOR_ARCHS_REASON=3D the new KMS components are only supported on > amd64 > > > > Not to ia32 friendly. > > > > So do people use i386 for desktop? And need the latest KMS stuff? > Yeah I was wondering the same.. If you're running i386, do you need drm drivers? Will scfb work an i386? (probably has legacy bios and if I remember correctly, scfb is UEFI only) I do feel sorry for anyone who would have to revert back to VESA... Would it be too much trouble to move it to a port? > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >