From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Fri Dec 28 21:41:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30011423691 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [140.82.23.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A9CA6CEF2 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from duke.gem.co (cpe-76-175-75-27.socal.res.rr.com [76.175.75.27]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 16ec4af5 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:41:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A question about graphics subsystems under FreeBSD To: starikarp@yandex.com, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org References: <1545661179.1813.0@smtp.migadu.com> <20181228162750.12b4fc44@yandex.com> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: <4827bd08-e59c-9860-c8a0-7c3502b23cd3@nomadlogic.org> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:41:20 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181228162750.12b4fc44@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0A9CA6CEF2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@nomadlogic.org designates 140.82.23.70 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@nomadlogic.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[27.75.175.76.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[nomadlogic.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.nomadlogic.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.45)[ip: (-9.10), ipnet: 140.82.16.0/21(-4.55), asn: 20473(1.49), country: US(-0.08)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yandex.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:140.82.16.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 21:41:24 -0000 On 12/28/18 1:27 PM, starikarp@yandex.com wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 13:12:09 -0800 > Pete Wright wrote: > >>>> - *really* old (*ancient*) Radeons might need drm-legacy-kmod and >>>> xf86-video-ati-legacy > *really old* (*ancient*) - which year is the end of the old cards and > it started with the newer, please? I don't have specific dates handy, but the wiki states which is hopefully helpful: (under AMD GPU section): "AMD GPU is the kernel module that can be used to support post-HD7000 or Tahiti GPU's." (and under Radeon KMS) "Radeon KMS is a distinct driver intended for older AMD based GPU's that are available in pre-HD7000 or Tahiti GPU's" I'll update the support matrix to reflect this, also - corrections or clarifications are certainly welcome here! :) -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA