From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon May 2 10:40:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DBFB1D84D for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15971A86 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id DCFE0B1D84C; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6DB1D84A for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B36A81A85 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (ppp121-45-225-151.lns20.per1.internode.on.net [121.45.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u42Ae3KO084240 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 03:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) To: ports@freebsd.org From: Julian Elischer Subject: old ports/packages Message-ID: <03cc4012-026e-c007-09e1-ee45524f1b95@elischer.org> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:39:57 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 10:40:17 -0000 Hi guys, ok so I see: 2014-04-30 ports-mgmt/pkg_install: Replaced by ports-mgmt/pkg So now how do enterprises maintaining appliances etc. generate packages for old systems? (yeah I know about chroot/jails etc.) but we have it embedded into several workflows that deliver stuff that is not 'regular packages'. pkg_install is still available in 10.x, but when we move to 11 (we will lose that). Can we please have a port made of the last pkg_install from the 10 branch so that it is still available when we move to 10? There WAS such a port but it was removed for some odd reason around the same time it was removed from -current. (By rene) The standard procedure for removing something from base usually includes making sure it is still available in ports. Removing it from ports at the same time is a pretty bad breakage of POLA. It is true that new machines will not need it but not all the world is a new machine.