From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 7 05:31:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C5E16A4CF for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 05:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684243D48 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 05:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i47CV8Ms094645; Fri, 7 May 2004 16:31:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:31:08 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Gleb Smirnoff In-Reply-To: <20040507121738.GA97302@cell.sick.ru> Message-ID: <20040507162633.G61288@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <20040507160253.B61288@woozle.rinet.ru> <20040507121738.GA97302@cell.sick.ru> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FrameRelay support for cx/ctau adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:31:10 -0000 On Fri, 7 May 2004, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: GS> D> we're using Cronyx adapters, some of them in FremaRelay mode, which has been GS> D> supported by cronyx-made drivers available from vendor site for most of FreeBSD GS> D> versions. FR support involves modifications to sppp kernel routines. GS> D> GS> D> Main driver maintainer is now FreeBSD committer (rik@). GS> D> However, during merging cx/ctau into the tree, FR suppport has not been GS> D> incorporated. Roman told me there are some objections to these modifications. GS> D> GS> D> Can I ask for more complete cx/ctau support including FR? GS> D> GS> D> Please keep me CC'd, as I'm not subscribed to -net. GS> GS> FreeBSD has support for FR with help of nodes ng_frame_relay and ng_lmi. This GS> support is hardware independent. And it works perfectly with cronyx adapters. GS> What is a reason for merging hardware specific support from old cronyx driver into GS> base system? Short answer: keep POLA. Longer answer: to keep 4.x systems with _existing_ fr setup up to date, non-intuitive and non-atomic patches are now required. BTW: we have more than one perfectly (for particular meaning of 'perfect', os course ;-) working firewall systems, more than on (3) ppp inplementations, and more than one software raid implementation. I do not see any harm in existing another (working!) implementation for fr then, especially when it does so little bloat to the code base. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------