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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b46sm18812115yhm.3.2012.09.18.07.05.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3XLmFK5KMqz2CG5p for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:05:41 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120918100541.23f3196e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <21e99057b51b3078055dc9f2626bd0bc@homey.local> References: <780066C6E2FAB67A997876B7@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20567.50041.903201.979498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <75ca1e92e2a51857615e193434898bf5@homey.local> <20120918081624.173ea6e1@scorpio> <21e99057b51b3078055dc9f2626bd0bc@homey.local> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnoSSQjMrAAnEhxz7MYoDfy9Frff+jCcyYtBYQ6w/N8IJE3+yvKv71UP5rKuW7/Z89uFAz2 Subject: Re: What replaces csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:05:46 -0000 On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:44:46 +0200 Stas Verberkt articulated: > We should not be forgetting that Git and Subversion represent two > different > workflows. The latter stands for a centralistic development cycle, > and the > former for a distributed manner. Thus, this type of choice does not > really > have to do with big or small steps and leading of following, but more > about > the production cycle you want to have. > If we were to use a Git-like system, the releng team would (probably) > be in > control on which patches are excepted from the pool of suggested > changesets > by the community of developers. This community would be more free in > the > manner in which they experiment, and there would be a less strong > differentiation between "committers" and other people suggesting > updates. On > the other hand, our current approach has a controlled group of > committers > and the releng team only has the additional power of setting the > schedule > and taking the snapshot that becomes the release. (Gravely > simplified.) It is a matter of taste. > > On a side note, using Git does mean that everyone has to download a > complete > repository. This makes using a csup-like architecture quite > "heavy-weight". I found the information at this URL quite interesting, especially the numbers under the "Speed Comparisons" heading at the end. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________