Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:34:45 +0000 From: Peter Risdon <peter@circlesquared.com> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: [Fwd: Re: mot de passe root] Message-ID: <1111685685.756.97.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com>
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--=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Re: mot de passe root Content-Type: message/rfc822 Subject: Re: mot de passe root From: Peter Risdon <peter@circlesquared.com> To: Bob Johnson <bob89@eng.ufl.edu> Cc: Josh Ockert <torstenvl@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> References: <4241DBED.2050600@libertysurf.fr> <4240B2F7.5010805@bah.homeip.net> <126eac4805032323547e728023@mail.gmail.com> <1111654311.756.71.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <126eac48050324010546e5949@mail.gmail.com> <1111655431.756.77.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> <4242DD2C.5030209@eng.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:31:36 +0000 Message-Id: <1111685496.756.96.camel@lorna.circlesquared.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:30 -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: > >No, I'm sorry but that seems to me to be a non sequitur. We can > >understand questions we are not competent to answer if they are in > >English, learn from the replies and if we hit the same issues ourselves > >we can google and get a reply we can understand. You are suggesting this > >incredibly useful situation be broken, if I understand you right. And > >this applies to French and Russian speakers equally: this is an English > >list, there are also French and Russian lists. I'd argue just as > >strongly that postings to the French list should be in French. > > > >Peter. > > > > > This is the default world-wide FreeBSD support list. Postings in any > language > have always been welcome (at least since I subscribed in 1997). Who put > you > in charge of deciding otherwise? Crikey. Well, nobody, of course, and I'm not assuming that position. I was responding to and not initiating a thread. However: <quote> Please use an appropriate human language for a particular mailing list. Many non-English mailing lists are available. For the ones that are not, we do appreciate that many people do not speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that. It is considered particularly poor form to criticize non-native speakers for spelling or grammatical errors. FreeBSD has an excellent track record in this regard; please, help us to uphold that tradition. </quote> comes from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html and it's clearly implicit that lists are in English unless otherwise stated. This also seems implicit in statements such as: <quote> The newcomers accuse the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accuse the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. </quote> from How to get best results from the FreeBSD-questions mailing list http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ So it seems clear that: - English is the language in use in lists unless otherwise stated - there are non-English lists. I responded because I do think it's important that the lists remain a useful archive, and that a call, as I read it, to splinter into many languages would break this. I argued as I did for the reasons I gave and not out of zenophobia, as you suggested in another post. I think you were out of line with that, but am not going to lose any sleep over it. Peter. --=-1t9uMgYeNuBTK2sX8LH9--
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