Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:14:44 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> To: marino@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r351326 - head/Mk Message-ID: <534D30C4.7060909@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <534D3055.3070406@FreeBSD.org> References: <201404151249.s3FCnkvQ026905@svn.freebsd.org> <534D2D57.60001@FreeBSD.org> <534D2F2B.4030606@marino.st> <534D3055.3070406@FreeBSD.org>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --VxjWhOHCAo8r7kUvMWDbA15vVDSfPecMI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/15/2014 8:12 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 4/15/2014 8:07 AM, John Marino wrote: >> On 4/15/2014 15:00, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> On 4/15/2014 7:49 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>> Author: bapt >>>> Date: Tue Apr 15 12:49:46 2014 >>>> New Revision: 351326 >>>> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/351326 >>>> QAT: https://qat.redports.org/buildarchive/r351326/ >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> Register deprecation and expiration in packages >>>> >>> >>> This will require bumping PORTREVISION for DEPRECATED and EXPIRE_DATE= >>> changes, resulting in a 100% useless rebuild. >>> >>> It would be much better to not have this in the packages at all and o= nly >>> in the repo. >> >> I think this conclusion depends on individual interpretation. >> Did the installed binary change? No, so no bump needed. Does the pkg= >> internal database contents change? yes. Does that require a bump? >> >> That depends on how vital the information is. >> If it's considered "nice to have" and people can live with it only >> coming in when the PKGNAME changes, then no bump is required. If the >> lack of transparency on DEPRECATION is considered a real issue (and su= re >> many people do believe this) then yes, a bump would be needed to get i= t >> visible. >> [...] >=20 > Otherwise needing a PORTREV bump can lead to the user not knowing if it= > is forgotten. >=20 >=20 And yes I see this as mission critical information to deliver to the user. I hate that we deprecate and remove things. I am willing to accept it if the user is aware of the pending doom though. Right now they have no clue or way to find out this information and are astonished (POLA) when their package no longer installs. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --VxjWhOHCAo8r7kUvMWDbA15vVDSfPecMI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTTTDEAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPp3sIAJ4911J/qGBLVCBI4k9jd8Ov Z9uzWtz3rQ5VVdQWwxgByNbGGvhk7hy2/xVTkt33zIUnXBLrFRwt0p+8np+C31h6 4r4KXricEDnEgYlIvMS5UeGNw4O5yVijlnlWwYBSpnjYh+3ZdEqlOQLmXVWdu39b Sd8PnGEbhu3HtpbmOtq/e3umwuw3ChRoNn3t6ofkLoe0lHjBVewyHh++2fz+PDu5 Isc8zICJ45u94dyuIeXyF4n1DqJgsv0OD9v4+WedDAiABkZoZoQQcPI9D3cN4NTG so/4vQ9dZceB5pu2SkL7vMiQuLGtE7wYFoyN161MM4CqHjEC0sZWk/0mfh5sgTo= =CYjv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VxjWhOHCAo8r7kUvMWDbA15vVDSfPecMI--
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