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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:15:59 +0000
From: Bruce Simpson <bms@incunabulum.net>
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Subject: Re: AHCI/ATA_CAM for dummies?
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b. f. wrote:
> "The main regression of the new mode is a lack of ataraid alternative, to
> support cheap BIOS-based ATA RAIDs. If somebody has time and wish to
> port that code from inside ata(4) into GEOM module, to make it work over
> CAM also, I would appreciate that and propose a help, if needed."
>   

Please search stable@ archives for my bad experiences with ataraid.

IMHO, this stuff needs serious attention before it could be considered 
useful, so the lack of ataraid in the new world order is not that much 
of a loss, to my mind anyway.

cheers,
BMS