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Grimes" , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <608E7E08-D8CB-460A-B632-77BB08A2F61D@samsco.org> References: <202009261828.08QISIww055941@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BzNKL1qfNz47pk X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=samsco.org header.s=fm1 header.b=Eust5sPy; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=UsqLK0A3; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of scottl@samsco.org designates 64.147.123.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=scottl@samsco.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[64.147.123.25:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.25]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[samsco.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.31)[-1.311]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.198.172.223:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.123.25:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[samsco.org:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[scottl]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[samsco.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[svn-src-all,svn-src-head] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 22:11:19 -0000 > On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am the wrong person to answer that question. >=20 > In this case, things have not become lame. For instance, the names=20 > ervers for se.freebsd.org work fine, but ftp3.se and ftp6.se records = are=20 > removed. Same for ru.freebsd.org and ftp4.ru. > I'm merely pointing out that changing ftp.CC.freebsd.org usually=20 > requires contacting the person(s) maintaining the CC.freebsd.org zone,=20= > which is usually not the project. >=20 > It's usually people associated with the project in some way, but who = might not be as responsive as cluster admin. These domains have been = delegated, so we have to get the delegated admin to make the changes, = which can take a bit of time to chase down and doesn't lend itself to = easy / automated coping with this situation. >=20 Just a spitball idea here, but maybe we should consider not embedding = these lists of mirror URLs into the binaries. It seems pretty = straight-forward that the list evolves over time, and that evolution is = not tightly coupled with the updating of the binaries. It sounds like = the pkg and freebsd-update infrastructure use DNS TXT and/or SRV records = to point to the metadata needed to construct a mirror URL list = dynamically. Maybe something similar can be done for bsdconfig? If = it=E2=80=99s not a crazy idea, is there anyone who would be interested = in helping me write a proposal over at arch@? Thanks, Scott