From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 18:02:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E5C16A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21501.mail.yahoo.com (web21501.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADBA843D3F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:02:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from non_secure@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040201020256.17498.qmail@web21501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.9.129.2] by web21501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:02:56 PST Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:02:56 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Schmoe To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:14:59 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: What kind of a crash is this ? (kernel ? userland ?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:02:59 -0000 Hello, I have become familiar with certain FreeBSD crashes - namely, I can tell the difference between the kernel crashing, and the userland crashing. If the machine is down, but I can still ping it, then the userland has crashed - the kernel is still running, which is why it responds to pings. But if it crashes and just reboots itself, then the kernel has crashed. Oversimplified I know, but I am leading up to: What kind of a crash is it if: I can ssh to the system, it gives me the BSD copyright and the uname message, but never ever gives me a prompt. What is going on in this scenario ? What kind of things have you seen that cause a crash like this ? thanks. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!