From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 10:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407AB16A4B3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail7.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B2F43FA3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (qmail 18154 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2003 17:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hydrogen.funkthat.com) ([69.17.45.168]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Oct 2003 17:59:49 -0000 Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (shkjof@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1])h9PHxmDu082056; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9PHxmSC082055; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:59:48 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Wes Peters Message-ID: <20031025175948.GF683@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Wes Peters , hackers@freebsd.org, Kip Macy References: <200310230143.32244.wes@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310230143.32244.wes@softweyr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-Etiquette: Did Kip just quote a private message to a public list? I didn't get phk's message. cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Kip Macy Subject: Re: FreeBSD mail list etiquette X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:59:51 -0000 Wes Peters wrote this message on Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:43 -0700: > Kip Macy, other DragonFlyBSD developers, and anyone else wishing to > contribute are invited to join and participate in the open FreeBSD mail > lists, sharing code, design information, research and test results, etc. > according to their own will. We welcome input from everyone, including > constructive criticism of weaknesses or flaws in FreeBSD. And patches (against FreeBSD) are highly encouraged. It rarely helps to simply point out flaws (or showing how X OS runs soo much better than FreeBSD, why are you guys even running FreeBSD?) w/o showing code to fix it. Note: I am not speaking as an offical representive of FreeBSD, just as a developer who has too few time to try to code up a patch for code I haven't seen. And considering that DragonFlyBSD is based upon FreeBSD coming up with said patches should be trivial. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."