From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:29:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD808426 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92D142E2 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id rd18so26384241iec.3 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:29:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hJYlqxUbuMkwuzBDGQzzJH31ICMnM+4Dh1QSaC6EW38=; b=OkGLosLKLKXFKKGdgx03RzBumfO0wcXZ5fB4d4mnBZSu7eJ825UaqbXoVl+3PivBWE k7p6yrann2QWhKi+I+0Tmvk4+FcAOKmldi0j619woPHBZgo9UXBtOHm9KU/06wcT4Qhe U/dV8VIF3LvXRMX66dVik2Z7SYg/a1CXy5M34aRzSCvbxdUSyOnD4y+vd0RaHr0di+n8 qTgjuB+vM97OqlQvTkXYvqPzKUaClYNRnRrpWik+/7IpCeBmR7aUZ5PMlyXvIQIg0OuT ei9+FT8U/XAGF2SEhL0sjReOSoHm5ZfJO6eJwwt6t/reUCDLKjdRT6MtM0sEaHVyuWQp LJmg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkSOAiWUnQwj9vJoRCn37POHZAEn9XxhyuhRYbNGzF3LwmJuhFoTdCZ6L0Cg/EA+GvWqZ0UgdQR3217dET48T1Srnlg5HCg6TQrU/tZ0ITGPAq1qz+PG9bM6kcbrW5MrmqMb/cH X-Received: by 10.50.67.100 with SMTP id m4mr6887281igt.22.1422487754012; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:29:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.5.136 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:28:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20150128183231.GI58886@cicely7.cicely.de> <1422473251.15718.70.camel@freebsd.org> <20150128201440.GA73589@cicely7.cicely.de> From: "Lundberg, Johannes" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:28:58 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: System-On-Module To: ticso@cicely.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current , Ian Lepore , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:29:14 -0000 By the way, this is for an embedded mobile device so we are looking for something more like http://www.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/smarc/smarc-samx6i.html instead of Wandboard which has all the connectors that we won't use. -- Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Lundberg, Johannes < johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> wrote: > Thanks a lot guys. > > I can specify a bit more details. > We don't need any sd-card, sata or external storage. Just the internal > eMMC is enough. > Display output can be DSI, LVDS or something that can easily be serialize= d > to transfer over 2 wires. > If WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 is on the board that'll also be great. > And of course, it would be helpful if the said board also is available as > development kit... > > If the first tests are ok (tests can be done using Linux if FreeBSD > doesn't run out of the box) we're looking to buy a larger amount, at leas= t > >1000 to start with. > > We are flexible about prize and size of the board. > > Atom is preferable over imx6, but I'll check out what you recommended. > Thanks again! > > Ps. Hopefully we can also provide development boards for anyone who wants > to help with porting out of own interest. > > -- > Johannes Lundberg > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Bernd Walter > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:27:31PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: >> > On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: >> > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote: >> > > > Hi >> > > > >> > > > Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out >> there which >> > > > have best support for FreeBSD? >> > > > >> > > > MEN >> > > > Variscite >> > > > Technologic system >> > > > Adlink >> > > > etc. >> > > > >> > > > What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs >> > > > ARM or x86, 64bit if possible. >> > > > 2-4 cores >> > > > 1.5-2.0 GHz >> > > > 2 GB RAM >> > > > ~16 GB Storage >> > > > USB 3.0 >> > > > PCB size about one to two credit cards. >> > > >> > > In that range I would go for a Wandboard. >> > > They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM. >> > > The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet. >> > > They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one >> > > on a carrier board. >> > > Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB, >> although >> > > the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future >> modules. >> > > >> > > TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some >> > > x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at >> > > a higher price and bigger form factor. >> > > Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with >> > > different featuresets, but also at a higher price. >> > >> > You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules, >> > namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/= or >> > automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade. On the other >> > hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time. Last >> > time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers >> > like Mouser and Digikey. >> >> Temperature rating - that can easily justify the higher price. >> >> > Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun= . >> > I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no larg= e >> > drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products. Gonzo >> > ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time >> > soon. >> >> To my knowledge they come in 3 different sizes. >> I own the biggest two versions of them. >> Completely forgot that the Hummingboard uses modules as well and the >> modules are even very small. >> >> -- >> B.Walter http://www.bwct.de >> Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm. >> > > --=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =E7=A7=98=E5=AF=86=E4=BF=9D=E6=8C=81=E3=81=AB=E3=81=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=EF= =BC=9A=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E9=9B=BB=E5=AD=90=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81= =AF=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E3=81=AB=E9=80=81=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=97= =E3=81=9F=E3=82=82=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=82=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E7=A7=98=E5= =8C=BF=E7=89=B9=E6=A8=A9=E3=81=AE=E5=AF=BE=E8=B1=A1=E3=81=A8=E3=81=AA=E3=82= =8B=E6=83=85=E5=A0=B1=E3=82=92=E5=90=AB=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99=E3=80=82 =E3=82=82=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E4=BB=A5=E5=A4=96=E3= =81=AE=E6=96=B9=E3=81=8C=E5=8F=97=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E5=A0= =B4=E5=90=88=E3=80=81=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AE= =E7=A0=B4=E6=A3=84=E3=80=81=E3=81=8A=E3=82=88=E3=81=B3=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AB=E9=96=A2=E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E4=B8=80=E5=88= =87=E3=81=AE=E9=96=8B=E7=A4=BA=E3=80=81 =E8=A4=87=E5=86=99=E3=80=81=E9=85=8D=E5=B8=83=E3=80=81=E3=81=9D=E3=81=AE=E4= =BB=96=E3=81=AE=E5=88=A9=E7=94=A8=E3=80=81=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AF=E8=A8= =98=E8=BC=89=E5=86=85=E5=AE=B9=E3=81=AB=E5=9F=BA=E3=81=A5=E3=81=8F=E3=81=84= =E3=81=8B=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8B=E8=A1=8C=E5=8B=95=E3=82=82=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3= =81=AA=E3=81=84=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=8A=E9=A1=98=E3=81=84=E7=94=B3=E3=81= =97=E4=B8=8A=E3=81=92=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 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