From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Sep 13 19:52:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBD1D1545 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46VRBY4h4Qz43N9 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A0BC8D1544; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0862D1543 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46VRBY3mxyz43N8 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-qt1-f179.google.com (mail-qt1-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5952BF758 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-qt1-f179.google.com with SMTP id j31so8515278qta.5 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:52:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWJkeHXCldMLf478R+cQe3bDaWC4day/Kzbw41gcBXQtWOzHY2H glkQ4BpjCJG4Y3KiQVx7idWL6QH9DS+yEBzoZBk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyzi2ZqaqBMTTTGcFDR6De+jmdYuiIBwBW47GuI5gYsbSxmbSUClJr/FjpESorS8VspSvK6nsO3amfOlUkq9yI= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2bca:: with SMTP id n10mr5116764qtn.242.1568404372711; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kyle Evans Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 14:52:40 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: PicoBSD Build Scripts To: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:52:53 -0000 Hi, A PR[0] has recently surfaced pertaining to the PicoBSD build scripts (see: picobsd(8), ^/release/picobsd) and how they fail to produce usable output by default. Some further investigation revealed that the build script is actually pretty broken, and has to have been for at least a couple of years... see comment #2 on the referenced PR. Because of this and that it hasn't seen much active maintenance (mostly drive-by mechanical changes, from what I can tell) for years, I'd like to propose deprecation and removal of the PicoBSD build scripts. The bits at ^/release/picobsd/tinyware can likely be moved to the ^/tools hierarchy, as they might be independently useful. Specifically, I propose a soft deadline of October 31st for removal; if someone comes forward with patches or an interest in working on it, nothing will be removed at this time. I further propose a hard deadline of December 31st for removal without patches posted to address the various issue. I'll happily review any patches that come across my virtual desk. Thoughts/comments/concerns? Thanks, Kyle Evans [0] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240506