From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jan 3 19:41:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B9FC9DCD0 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53A901015 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Tue, 03 Jan 2017 20:44:24 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EC273CC3F; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 20:41:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v03JfhQe004615; Tue, 3 Jan 2017 20:41:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 20:41:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: "Kevin P. Neal" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS installation correct ? Message-Id: <20170103204143.feef503c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483470606.858412.836226825.3C32552E@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483454858.4190708.835937993.300F2713@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20170103160657.GB43153@neutralgood.org> <1483470606.858412.836226825.3C32552E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 40D436A356F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2449 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 19:41:48 -0000 On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 20:10:06 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > " ... I am calculate on the worst case ... " -Napoleon >=20 > Author deleted both linux and have not network acess(communicated from > public cafe) The advice has been to remove _one_ of the Linux installations (the one that doesn't work). > Author have a time to test any possible combination ( as Mr.Edison) > 100 time's . The suggested approaches and the documentation hasn't been followed; instead, strange assumptions and misdecisions have been made. The presented outputs and system reactions do not allow a proper recognition of what actually happened. This hardly leads to a functional operating system installation. And if it did, it's pure luck. :-) > To date installed -last step asked reboot pressed button with > Sandisk > ( tested case's sandisk out ,press button reboot without poweroff > or poweroff sandisk out poweron & ) >=20 > End result=20 > multiuser installation -enter or 1 > this some work=20 >=20 > login : root > passwd : xxxxxxx >=20 > in tty cat ,more ls ,man work but mutiple commands=20 > as xinit ,loadkeys ,iwconfig - command not exist=20 For X to work, you need to install X first. FreeBSD does not have "loadkeys" or "iwconfig". For setting up your keyboard, run the command "bsdinstall" and select your keyboard, which I already suggested. Networking can also be configured with "bsdinstall", the command line tool for this task is "ifconfig" (see "man ifconfig" for details). > Author tested single user installation -system going to test mode > ,to shell mode=20 > not work to date=20 The single user mode is only used for emergencies. FreeBSD usually operates in multi-user mode (which is the default boot mode, and this is fully correct). > Author demand english ,but notebook and extra keyboard is germany=20 > tested all germany keyboards ,which are offered by installer > in loader test correct no =C4=D6=DC but "? - work correctly)=20 > but after login with root "?-\ work false ,but decision for this > problem can be > found later.=20 The missing Umlauts are a problem I encountered as well. Even though the Y and Z are in the correct place, and the punctiation keys as well as the "shifted numbers" and even the Alt Gr codes for brackets and braces work as intended, Umlauts do not work. I think this is due to the new concole subsystem (vt instead of sc) and the incorporation of UTF-8. But don't bother with that stuff. Install X. Keyboard and Umlauts and Eszett will work within X without a problem once you've selected the correct keyboard layout for X. So your next steps should involve installing and configuring X (which it does automatically), install a window manager to your personal preferences, and=20 Here is the relevant documentation: Mandatory: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-install.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x11-wm.html Optional: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-xdm.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-compiz-fusion.html Also review my previous messages in which I explained how to use ~/.xinitrc in order to configure your window manager. There are also suggestions of window managers you could try. I suggest you test KDE or Xfce first if you feel you need a full-featured desktop environment. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...